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Interview with the vampire had a sequel in Queen of the Damned in 2002, without any of the actors from the original and only one character (Lestat, Cruise's character). Don't take that as an invitation to watch it, though.
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Apr 9, 2014, 04:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Riddick and Pitch Black, sorta.
No sorta required. Pitch Black followed by The Chronicles of Riddick.

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James Bond manages without numbers, but then it has so many using numbers would get unwieldy
That was based on books and was a series. But considering it started in 1960, you have a point.
     
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Apr 9, 2014, 04:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
Interview with the vampire had a sequel in Queen of the Damned in 2002, without any of the actors from the original and only one character (Lestat, Cruise's character). Don't take that as an invitation to watch it, though.
Oh yeah, Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal, Red Dragon...
     
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Apr 9, 2014, 04:49 PM
 
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, although the titles already have that "Franchise: Subtitle" symmetry going on.
     
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Apr 9, 2014, 04:50 PM
 
I thought Riddick had the subtitle Pitch Black II.
     
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Apr 9, 2014, 04:52 PM
 
Is Riddick any good? I like Vin.
     
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Apr 9, 2014, 07:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Is Riddick any good? I like Vin.
A lot better than 2, not quite as good as 1. I enjoyed it.
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Apr 9, 2014, 08:41 PM
 
The second seemed to have some OTT Duneesque production design the first lacked.

Dune is not a movie you should go see unless you can cope with limitless wasted potential.
     
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Apr 10, 2014, 12:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
The second seemed to have some OTT Duneesque production design the first lacked.

Dune is not a movie you should go see unless you can cope with limitless wasted potential.
We saw Dune at the theater when it was released, my dad's a big Frank Herbert fan, and I can't say he was very happy when we left.
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Apr 10, 2014, 12:27 AM
 
There's a three-part TV remake from about six years or so ago that I really liked. The SFX are overdone, but that's part of the whole style, and it actually works quite well. It's very true to the book.
     
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Apr 10, 2014, 12:49 AM
 
Is that the one with Bill Hurt playing the part of Leto?
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Apr 10, 2014, 01:24 AM
 
Yep, that's the one I meant. Just checked, and it's actually from 2000.
     
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Apr 10, 2014, 09:13 AM
 
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A lot better than 2, not quite as good as 1. I enjoyed it.
I tried, but both Chronicles and Riddick left me feeling like I wasted my time at the expense of watching almost anything else. I had high hopes that Riddick would learn from the many failures of Chronicles, but they just made other mistakes instead in my opinion.

Ahhhh well, Pitch Black is just another attempted series enjoyed best on its own. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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Apr 10, 2014, 09:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
And if for some crazy reason you haven't seen Twelve Monkeys, which is based on it, do it now.
That's a great film!
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Apr 10, 2014, 10:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
We saw Dune at the theater when it was released, my dad's a big Frank Herbert fan, and I can't say he was very happy when we left.
I actually liked David Lynch's Dune, never saw the tv series. Books were very good, but the prequels written by his son and somebody else were tripe.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 02:37 PM
 
I must be the only person who like Chronicles of Riddick. Every time the damn thing came on TNT I was in.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 02:54 PM
 
Everybody seems to like Pitch Black, which I haven't seen, but I seem to recall the biology was impossible.

That kind of stuff will wreck it for me.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 03:00 PM
 
But the thing is, Pitch Black and Chronicles are two completely different genres. They shouldn't be compared, except that the same character is both movies.

I have no interest in Pitch Black, because that genre can suck it.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 03:14 PM
 
Elaborate for someone who's seen neither. Aren't they "sci-fi action"?
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 03:18 PM
 
Pitch Black is a thriller (with elements of horror, IMO). Chronicles is so... not.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 03:40 PM
 
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Apr 15, 2014, 03:45 PM
 
Have you seen Chronicles?

The complaint I heard about Riddick was it was a mish-mash of Pitch Black and Riddick. Since no one really cares for the former, it was a bit of a flop.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 04:44 PM
 
I haven't seen any of them.

I saw two minutes of Chronicles, and loved the production design.


I unfortunately (in terms of entertainment options) have a nasty case of restless leg syndrome. It's pretty much stopped me from watching movies or playing video games.

That's why all my movie recommendations are from last century.
     
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Apr 15, 2014, 05:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
That's why all my movie recommendations are from last century.
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Apr 15, 2014, 05:51 PM
 
I began coping with the problem by avoiding things wherein I need to sit down. I used to watch tons of movies. Now I rate one or two a year.

Last movie I saw was Prometheus.
     
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Apr 16, 2014, 07:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I must be the only person who like Chronicles of Riddick. Every time the damn thing came on TNT I was in.
Yes. Literally, it's just you and Shaddim on the couch.
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But the thing is, Pitch Black and Chronicles are two completely different genres. They shouldn't be compared, except that the same character is both movies.

I have no interest in Pitch Black, because that genre can suck it.
Get outta here. Let me propose two genres for you: "Good Movie" and "Bad Movie". Pitch Black is the former. You get where I'm going with the latter....

Alien and Aliens are sequels that have to be put in separate genres. Aliens is a straight-up action movie in space, whereas Alien is definitely not an action movie at all - from a genre perspective they're simply not similar. But both are still good (great) movies....
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Have you seen Chronicles?

The complaint I heard about Riddick was it was a mish-mash of Pitch Black and Riddick. Since no one really cares for the former, it was a bit of a flop.
Confused. I assume you meant latter, here? Because as far as I'm aware, Pitch Black is very well-known as an underrated cult classic, whereas Riddick (and Chronicles) are well-known in the sense that everyone not on your couch consider them to be overblown, overdone and either thoroughly mediocre or outright bad.

But I do think you`re right if you were saying that Riddick was a poor mishmash of Pitch Black and Chronicles.
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Apr 16, 2014, 04:56 PM
 
All these lovers and haters of Pitch Black... is, in fact, the biology wonky?

Isn't the premise the planet only rarely goes dark? And then all these gribblies come out?

How do the gribblies survive during the light part?
     
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Apr 16, 2014, 08:17 PM
 
All I'm going to say is NOT to watch Alien at 3AM underway on a submarine.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
All these lovers and haters of Pitch Black... is, in fact, the biology wonky?

Isn't the premise the planet only rarely goes dark? And then all these gribblies come out?

How do the gribblies survive during the light part?
I don't know about "lovers and haters"....it's just a good/solid movie that was obviously made on a very small budget. It's very...satisfying.

I don't remember exactly, but the premise is the planet has multiple moons and is therefore usually daylight. The monsters are sun-o-phobic and permanently live underground or in available shelters that afford protection. The humans happened to land at the rare time when there is a total eclipse and everything goes pitch black, allowing the baddies to briefly roam the entire planet.

As to the biology...I mean...it's a science fiction movie. The dark protagonist is some sort of mutant who is super-strong/fast and can see in the dark. If you're looking for biology, watch Discovery.
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Apr 17, 2014, 09:15 AM
 
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All I'm going to say is NOT to watch Alien at 3AM underway on a submarine.
I watched it at 3am on an airplane, is that the same thing? And to totally embarrass myself, I tried watching Paranormal Activity at 3am on an airplane once and couldn't finish it because it freaked me out.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 09:45 AM
 
Conversely (and this is why I think they are such a great pairing), Aliens would be awesome to watch on an airplane or sub at 3am. It would be a rockin great time.

I would 100% fall asleep trying to watch Alien at 3am. It's an incredible film but slow and atmospheric enough to knock me out past 10pm.
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Conversely (and this is why I think they are such a great pairing), Aliens would be awesome to watch on an airplane or sub at 3am. It would be a rockin great time.

I would 100% fall asleep trying to watch Alien at 3am. It's an incredible film but slow and atmospheric enough to knock me out past 10pm.
It wasn't the movie that was the real problem, it was the clawing through the berthing (sleeping) areas afterwards with all the subhuman noises in the freaking dark that was.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 11:02 AM
 
Movie to see: All is Lost. Robert Redford + a boat. Simple, yet very intense.
     
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Do the entire Alien(s) series in order.
     
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All is Lost was good, but I don't think I would watch it again. There just wasn't anything in the way of character arc that made you really feel for him, other than his terrible luck. Worth watching though, as you say, very intense...although if you actually know the ocean and what a storm is like, having it likely all or mostly filmed in a tank (from what I could tell) is a bit obvious.
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Apr 17, 2014, 12:51 PM
 
Yeah. Crazy me who wants to connect my biology to my science.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 01:00 PM
 
I found the lack of dialogue unnerving, and kept talking to myself/him throughout. Several times I wished he had a tiger to talk to. If this were a more typical hollywood movie, they would have had a prologue with his family, showing some estrangement... blah blah. It actually felt nice not having that trope, cleaner, just some moments where you get glimpses of his life.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 01:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Yeah. Crazy me who wants to connect my biology to my science.
I like how you left off the "fiction"
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I like how you left out the word "science".
     
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
As to the biology...I mean...it's a science fiction movie. The dark protagonist is some sort of mutant who is super-strong/fast and can see in the dark. If you're looking for biology, watch Discovery.
I did?

Honestly, analyzing a movie like Pitch Black based on biological validity...I mean...I'm just not sure where that fits in.
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Apr 17, 2014, 04:06 PM
 
Soft sci-fi is fine if has narrative justification, it's not fine when it's an excuse to be lazy.

At least in my book. I'm into sciencey stuff.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 07:26 PM
 
I'm not a big fan of Chronicles.., it's mediocre, at best. It's Emo Riddick, and I don't really like Emo Riddick. I'm more a fan of calculating, vicious, nasty, psycho-with-a-heart-of-something-that's-almost-like-gold Riddick. Rating them 1 to 10, I'd say; First = 8+, Second = 5, Third = 6.5ish. We're getting a fourth too, Last Son of Furya or something like that.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Soft sci-fi is fine if has narrative justification, it's not fine when it's an excuse to be lazy.

At least in my book. I'm into sciencey stuff.
Hey, I've got a science degree, in biology natch. But you seem to be taking "science fiction" waaaay too seriously. By your own criteria pretty much all fiction action movies are...invalidated?
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Jumpy stunts < Impossible ecosystems
     
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If science fiction is portraying things modern science has already discovered (sound in space, gravity, viruses) then they lose plausibility if they mess that up. However, I have no problem with things like dematerialization, or time travel, because there are no rules for the impossible, until the writers make them. As long as they can be consistent to the rules they set, it's cool.
     
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Apr 17, 2014, 11:52 PM
 
Yeah. I'm generally fine with "superscience".

Likewise, Star Wars is marshmallow soft, but it's just as much a fairy tale as sci-fi, so that doesn't bother me. The soft aspects have narrative justification.

I'm not even necessarily rigid about it with harder sci-fi. It's a question of whether the choice has narrative support or is laziness.

Take Prometheus. There was a lot of implausible shit going on in the first half. Things which in real life would be suicidal. As I thought about it though, I realized there's a pretty hefty time constraint in the length of a normal movie, and representing the slow and deliberate way you would actually go about things in real life would be a big load on that limited time.

Unfortunately, it was at that exact moment, where I understood what they were serving up, and was ready to roll with it, when the movie flung itself off the ****ing cliff.



I think an excellent example of properly working the angles of science vs. fantasy was in Hancock. Right at the beginning, Hancock stops a freight train to save some people's lives. What follows is funny (everybody starts yelling at him for doing it in a stupid way), but throughout the whole two or three minute scene I'm twitching, because even though it's a movie where people fly and shit, I understand basic principles of momentum, and that stopping the first car of a freight train on a dime does nothing about all the cars behind it.

As the scene ends, I'm grumbling to myself, "oh... so it's going to be one of those movies".

Then it does something brilliant. As the camera cranes out, you see the rest of the train is still accordioning itself. Cars being thrown off the rails left and right.

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Apr 18, 2014, 01:25 AM
 
Just to be "that guy" when it comes to superhero tropes...

Super strong superhero tries to pick up a tank.

The result would be planting themselves in the ground like a tent peg.
     
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Apr 18, 2014, 06:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Jumpy stunts < Impossible ecosystems
IMO that's a weird and arbitrary line to draw, mostly because "impossible ecosystems" is the only one we aren't certain of. It bugs you that the author has created a world you're not aware exists in the universe, but a hero flying a car off a bridge and then down the street is totally fine because it's done for entertainment/effect?

Look, I've just realized that you haven't even watched the movie. Why don't you try that first?
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