[Giano]

I try to make an alarm...and i close ical...as you now iCal noemally don't show alarm if it was close.....well NOW IT SHOW ALARM::::::::::::!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well....i hope not to make an error....but it seem like it work.....good....good....

[mrfrost]

Originally posted by Giano:
I try to make an alarm...and i close ical...as you now iCal noemally don't show alarm if it was close.....well NOW IT SHOW ALARM::::::::::::!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well....i hope not to make an error....but it seem like it work.....good....good....

It has worked for me since the beginning ?

[Giano]

but with ical close????? and even for tomorrow at the right time.....???
well.....but.....
i'm stupid??

[Green Leaf]

You are confused!

iCal always worked when it was closed. That's silly to think that it wouldn't display a birthday message when the 'application' wasn't physically open.

The problem (which still remains) is that iCal won't show 'display messages', i.e., birthday messages when the computer is off at the time the message was suppose to be displayed.

For example: My iCal is suppose to notify me at 3pm that it's my friend's birthday. But at 3pm my computer is off. I get home at 6:30pm and turn on my computer. I still want it to display that message.

I don't leave my computer on ALL the time like some of you. I pay my own electric bills! I can't come running to mommy to pay my expenses like so many of you guys do.

[CheesePuff]

Maybe its worth it to pay the extra $5 a month to leave your computer on then?

[quadgrande]

Green Leaf: Sounds like Mommy just cut you off and you're still bitter about it.

Earlier in the week, I set up a reminder, quit iCal, and did not receive the popup. It was the first time I had tried, so I'm not sure if it worked before 10.2.3. Those of you who use iCal more may have better feedback.

However, it does work now. The application that fires the pop-up is "iCal Helper", and the timestamp on that application is:

-rwxrwxr-x 1 root admin 76100 Dec 19 16:55 iCal Helper

It looks like 10.2.3 updated it.

[wataru]

Maybe it'll work if you add more exclamation points to your thread title.

[ShotgunEd]

I'm using 10.2.2 and i just got an iCal reminder pop-up. iCal wasn't running and it definitely didn't work with 10.2. It was either introduced with 10.2.1 or 10.2.2. I haven't installed 10.2.3 yet.

[Giano]

yes sorry people i receive my firt ical message...and i go mad....
yes now remember that the problem was another....well....i answer to myself : "I am stupid"

[rw]

Originally posted by Green Leaf:

I don't leave my computer on ALL the time like some of you. I pay my own electric bills!

I've been told that booting up the computer uses as much electricity as leaving it on idle all night. Is this so, or am I the victim of an urban legend?

[curmi]

Originally posted by rw:


I've been told that booting up the computer uses as much electricity as leaving it on idle all night. Is this so, or am I the victim of an urban legend?

Urban legend I believe. Similar to the "leaving your lights on for hours uses less electricity than turning them off and on".

I agree that iCal should still alert you if your machine was off (or sleeping) when the alarm went off. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by curmi:
Urban legend I believe. Similar to the "leaving your lights on for hours uses less electricity than turning them off and on".

Actually, that is, in fact, true.

Though only for fluorescents and those new enery-saving fluorescent derivatives. The spark required to ignite them uses far more electricity than the lamp itself, so it does make sense to keep them on if they're not going to be off for more than maybe half an hour or so (not sure whereabouts the trade-off is nowadays).

It is also true for hard disks, since spinning up the disks takes far more power than keeping them running. There's a trade-off point here somewhere, as well, of course.

Screens are better off (yuk yuk) please.

-s*

[mrchin]

My iCal's worked with alarm when completely closed since the beginning.

The one thing that has been fixed though, that no one's mentioned, is that the dock date is correct now, even if you haven't used it. Last time I launched iCal was the 20th, and this morning, right before I launched it I noticed that the date was the 22nd. Ooh, just adjusted my clock to 11:59. As it switched to midnight (iCal not running), iCal dockling updated itself to the 23rd. Not that it really matters to me, as I don't need to use this to know the date, but it's a fix.

[blixa]

Hm, this doesn't sound right. It can't possibly be the case that the spark used to fire up a flourescent light consumes that much energy. Wouldn't using that much energy in the microsecond (or whatever) it takes to spark require way way more current than your wiring could safely carry?

If I have a 10W compact flourescent that replaces a 60W regular light bulb, and the break-even time was 30 min, then over the course of half an hour:
a) the incandescent light uses 108000 Joules (60 W * 1800 seconds)
b1) the compact fl. uses 18000 J (10 W * 1800 sec)
b2) meaning that the spark uses 108000-18000 = 90000J.
Even if we have a super-slow spark that takes a whole sec, that's 90,000 Watts over that second.

I suppose that maybe it just takes awhile for flourescents to warm up, and operate less efficiently until then?

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Actually, that is, in fact, true.

Though only for fluorescents and those new enery-saving fluorescent derivatives. The spark required to ignite them uses far more electricity than the lamp itself, so it does make sense to keep them on if they're not going to be off for more than maybe half an hour or so (not sure whereabouts the trade-off is nowadays).

It is also true for hard disks, since spinning up the disks takes far more power than keeping them running. There's a trade-off point here somewhere, as well, of course.

Screens are better off (yuk yuk) please.

-s*