[besson3c]

as anybody actually gotten the supposed dialog stating that OS X Mail has learned enough about your spam patterns to leave training mode? On all the Macs I have access to, I've never seen this. I've been in training mode forever...

[juanvaldes]

theres a message?

I have been training mine ever since I upgraded and it has only misidentified one email. Not bad, but I get so few spam as it is I don't really bother and leave it on training.

[bartman00]

I've never "trained" at all.. I set it to full spam killz the first day and it's been great.

Where do you get the idea that it will tell you something like that? I was under the impression that even when in the active mode it's still learning about your spam and stuff.

Bart

[besson3c]

I'm pretty sure when it's in active mode it's no longer learning.

I've only heard that after a point, it will tell you that it no longer needs to be in training mode. I don't know if this is true.

[juanvaldes]

Originally posted by besson3c:
I'm pretty sure when it's in active mode it's no longer learning.

I've only heard that after a point, it will tell you that it no longer needs to be in training mode. I don't know if this is true.

probably not. Otherwise I am sure someone would have hit it by now, or apple would advertize it as such.

[besson3c]

I could have sworn that somebody in here did get that message. Anybody?

[snerdini]

As far as I know, Mail continues to learn even after you are finished the training mode. For example, if you receive a piece of mail that is identified as junk but in fact isn't, you can mark the message as "Not Junk". In the future, Mail won't mark that type of message as junk (not sure if it does it by sender or subject or what). Seems like learning to me

[besson3c]

If the "not junk" button appears when not in training mode, it would seem evident that I was wrong and that it does indeed continue to learn.

Hopefully I won't embarass myself by being proven wrong twice with regards to the aforementioned training dialog box.

[wataru]

I think I found something in the Mail.app help stuff about this. It said that you just set it to automatic whenever you feel it's learned enough. And I'm pretty sure it keeps learning even when on automatic.

[Developer]

Originally posted by besson3c:
I could have sworn that somebody in here did get that message. Anybody?

Yes, after some time Mail shows a dialog "Mail hasn't had any false positives since xxx any more. Do you want to turn on automatic mode?" I don't remember the exact phrasing any more, but it sounded like it comes after you had a certain number of junk without having clicked "This is not junk".
If you don't get lots of mail and junk this might take some time.

ps:
I had a look in Localizable.strings and this is what it actually says:

/* Message of panel asking the user if they want to switch from Training to Automatic mode for Junk Mail handling. */
"JUNK_MAIL_TRANSITION_MESSAGE" = "You’ve been using Junk Mail Training mode for a while now and haven’t marked many messages as Not Junk. If junk mail detection is working well for you, switch to Automatic mode. This will move the messages to the Junk folder so they’re out of your way.";

[typoon]

My rule of thumb to people is after about 2-4 weeks switch it to Automatic and it's about 99.9 percent accuate. Yes it still continues to "learn" even in automatic mode

[KidRed]

Originally posted by besson3c:
as anybody actually gotten the supposed dialog stating that OS X Mail has learned enough about your spam patterns to leave training mode? On all the Macs I have access to, I've never seen this. I've been in training mode forever...

It will train until you take it off training.

[mrtew]

Something's wrong with mine. I get a junk mail every day and every day I tell it that's it's junk and I also programmed it into my filter rules that it's too be deleted and it's junk and I still see it every day. I'd like to start over with the training. How do you do that? .... nevermind, I just saw the menu item that says reset junk mail. I hope it learns better this time!

[besson3c]

There seems to be some disagreement whether Mail continues to learn while not in training mode.

Should we take a poll?

[KidRed]

When it's training mode it will learn slowly. If you se what junk comes in and is not getting marked, you need to set up custom rumes for it. Like I have rules for subjects containing 'mortgage', 'penis', 'wieght loss', 'low rates' etc. You can do the same for those words in the body. Also, for emails that don't contain your email address in the 'to' field. Then, you can take mail off of training and onto automatic. I would then check your junk mailbox every now and then to make sure it's not junking good mail.

[Art Vandelay]

Mail continues to learn when it is in Automatic mode. I know this from experience. If I get an email that isn't identified as Junk, I mark it as Junk. The next time I get it, Mail will mark it as Junk by itself. Also, this is from Mail's Help:

In automatic mode, Mail will move messages to the Junk mailbox so they're out of your way and you can easily screen them. You should periodically review the messages in the Junk mailbox to make sure messages you care about aren't being identified as junk. If a message is wrongly classified, click the Not Junk button. You should also periodically delete junk messages. Correcting misidentified messages, and deleting junk messages, improves Mail's ability to correctly detect junk mail.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by KidRed:
When it's training mode it will learn slowly. If you se what junk comes in and is not getting marked, you need to set up custom rumes for it. Like I have rules for subjects containing 'mortgage', 'penis', 'wieght loss', 'low rates' etc. You can do the same for those words in the body. Also, for emails that don't contain your email address in the 'to' field. Then, you can take mail off of training and onto automatic. I would then check your junk mailbox every now and then to make sure it's not junking good mail.

Do you know that you can just simply mark the mail as Junk instead of setting up custom rules to handle it? I've never set up custom rules for Junk mail and it correctly handles over 90% of it correctly.

[KidRed]

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
Do you know that you can just simply mark the mail as Junk instead of setting up custom rules to handle it? I've never set up custom rules for Junk mail and it correctly handles over 90% of it correctly.

Well, you can mark it but that doesn't necessarily work. I mark everything that is junk (still in training mode) and yet and still the same type of junk still comes in unmarked. Thus, I set up custom rules.

If it works for you, obviously you don't need to set up any custom rules and my post doesn't apply to you.