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pat++ · Dec 30, 2002, 06:36 AM

I don't know if it's been announced yet, but it seems it will be there :

MWSF 2003 Webcast

sandsl · Dec 30, 2002, 06:44 AM

Apple announced that it would be doing a live stream of Steve's keynote on the 17th of December.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002...orldalert.html

I've bookmarked the webcast url

and its waiting to be clicked on
Tuesday January 7th at 5:00pm (GMT).

pat++ · Dec 30, 2002, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by sandsl:

I've bookmarked the webcast url and its waiting to be clicked on
Tuesday January 7th at 5:00pm (GMT).

Same for me

SoClose · Dec 30, 2002, 08:36 PM

Does anyone know if TechTV will be carrying the keynote? I love watching it on my computer and all, but I've got meetings and my TiVo will be home with nothing to do

dillerX · Dec 30, 2002, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by SoClose:
Does anyone know if TechTV will be carrying the keynote? I love watching it on my computer and all, but I've got meetings and my TiVo will be home with nothing to do

They botched it the last time they carried it and Apple hasn't let them carry it since.

SoClose · Dec 30, 2002, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by dillerX:
They botched it the last time they carried it and Apple hasn't let them carry it since.

Pissah! Maybe they'll re-run portions of it on their news program. I wish there was some cable channel that would carry the keynote...I've never really seen one that hasn't been some sort of streaming video.

dillerX · Dec 30, 2002, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by SoClose:
Pissah! Maybe they'll re-run portions of it on their news program. I wish there was some cable channel that would carry the keynote...I've never really seen one that hasn't been some sort of streaming video.

Apple was a wee bit pissed with their "commentary" at the time. Maybe they will forgive & forget. Email TechTV and see.

Agasthya · Dec 30, 2002, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by dillerX:
They botched it the last time they carried it and Apple hasn't let them carry it since.

No kidding. They had commercials during the keynote! I would rather watch it 320x240 on my screen than watch commercials. But I suppose its good for people w/o broadband.

TheIceMan · Dec 31, 2002, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by sandsl:
Apple announced that it would be doing a live stream of Steve's keynote on the 17th of December.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002...orldalert.html

I've bookmarked the webcast url and its waiting to be clicked on
Tuesday January 7th at 5:00pm (GMT).

Thanks for the link. It'll be 11am for me here in Texas.

Justin W. Williams · Dec 31, 2002, 02:38 AM

TechTV give up some of its Thunderbirds or Technotainment Zone timeslots? yeah right.

Get your browsers ready for the mpeg4 stream.

proton · Dec 31, 2002, 08:11 AM

4am over here...

On a modem...

That can only handle the 28.8k stream without losing packets severely...

Don't get me wrong, I'll still be listening :-)

*Mutters* At least MWNY is only 11pm, and I can usually get the a broadband link for that one.

-Q- · Dec 31, 2002, 12:55 PM

I can't ever get the stream to work behind our company firewall (it works with other streaming media, just not the keynote oddly enough) so I'm always relying upon MacNN or something to keep me up to date. I wonder if the Apple Stores will be showing it in their theatres?

Webscreamer · Dec 31, 2002, 07:03 PM

Come on guys, lets hear your predictions! HEH

Mr Ti · Jan 1, 2003, 02:38 PM

Predictions,

1Ghz iMac top end 19inch Superdrive �1899
867ghz bottom end 15inch Combo �799
iMac G3 scrapped

New improved screen for eMac, speedbump to match the new iMac speed.

iSync released

New 19inch LCD, 22inch Scrapped, 23inch substantial price drop

one last thing....new hard disk based device , ipodesque hybrid.

Not one mention of the current performance issues with the G4 when compared to the latest P4. That one will wait until MWNY, this is when the fireworks will begin.

my 2 pence

CheesePuff · Jan 1, 2003, 02:48 PM

The iMac 17" widescreen looks just fine and as wide as you can go. A 19" would be very silly... and would cost more than $2,000 for Apple to sell the system.

Also, in case you couldn't tell... Apple likes to use x00 or x50 MHz for consumer products because its easier to understand for computer illiterate people. So I think Apple will have Motorola make an 850 MHz G4 processor.

Amorph · Jan 1, 2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
The iMac 17" widescreen looks just fine and as wide as you can go. A 19" would be very silly... and would cost more than $2,000 for Apple to sell the system.

Considering that 17" LCDs are now only nominally more expensive than 15"'s, and LCD prices are plummeting... maybe.

But I might be influenced by untrammeled lust for an iMac with a big screen.

Also, in case you couldn't tell... Apple likes to use x00 or x50 MHz for consumer products because its easier to understand for computer illiterate people. So I think Apple will have Motorola make an 850 MHz G4 processor.

Uh, no. The iMac and iBook both had x33 and x67 clock speeds when they were on 66MHz busses. The iMac has just been on a 100MHz bus for so long that you're thinking it's a standard.

If they did need an 850Mhz processor for some reason, it would be a lot easier for them to just downclock 867s. But I doubt that'll have to do that. If Apple chooses to keep the 15" LCD model around, it'll probably stay at 800MHz and they'll drive the price down. New models will probably make a long-overdue move to a 133MHz bus, and that means CPU clockspeeds that are multiples of 66.66666... MHz.

CheesePuff · Jan 1, 2003, 03:38 PM

Once the dual USB iBooks came out at 500 MHz (with 66 MHz system bus) everything else was at x00 or x50.

The eMac is, iBook is and iMac is. It's just my opinion. I take yours with a grain of salt so do the same for mine if you wish. Or just wait a week.

Mr Ti · Jan 1, 2003, 05:23 PM

Just had a wild thought, Apple announce they have secretly worked hard to deliver openoffice with an aqua front end that is fully MS office compatible. It is to be rebadged as Appleworks 7 and is available as a free download.

Merry Christmas Micro$oft.

karbon · Jan 1, 2003, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by -Q-:
I can't ever get the stream to work behind our company firewall (it works with other streaming media, just not the keynote oddly enough) so I'm always relying upon MacNN or something to keep me up to date. I wonder if the Apple Stores will be showing it in their theatres?

Have you tried setting the "transport" settings of QuickTime to use HTTP? That should work fine behind a firewall!

krove · Jan 1, 2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by karbon:
Have you tried setting the "transport" settings of QuickTime to use HTTP? That should work fine behind a firewall!

I have NATD running and I cannot get quicktime streams on anthing but the computer acting as the software router. Anyone know why this is?

pat++ · Jan 1, 2003, 06:30 PM

I heard recurring rumors, that Steve Jobs will be wearing jeans and a black sweater

OwlBoy · Jan 1, 2003, 07:22 PM

Here is the link to the last stream for debugging purposes (see if it works for you etc)

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwny02/

-Owl

krove · Jan 1, 2003, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by pat++:
I heard recurring rumors, that Steve Jobs will be wearing jeans and a black sweater

Heh...imagine that!

TheMosco · Jan 1, 2003, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by pat++:
I heard recurring rumors, that Steve Jobs will be wearing jeans and a black sweater

i heard black turtle neck.

OwlBoy · Jan 1, 2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by TheMosco:
i heard black turtle neck.

Thats what the guy I know who knows a guy at Apple is saying.

-Owl

iJed · Jan 1, 2003, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
The iMac 17" widescreen looks just fine and as wide as you can go. A 19" would be very silly... and would cost more than $2,000 for Apple to sell the system.

Also, in case you couldn't tell... Apple likes to use x00 or x50 MHz for consumer products because its easier to understand for computer illiterate people. So I think Apple will have Motorola make an 850 MHz G4 processor.

No this is because they use a multiple of the system bus clock rate. All current consumer Macs have a slow 100MHz bus. Hopefully at MacWorld Apple will be upgrading this to 133MHz.

normyzo · Jan 1, 2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Mr Ti:
Just had a wild thought, Apple announce they have secretly worked hard to deliver openoffice with an aqua front end that is fully MS office compatible. It is to be rebadged as Appleworks 7 and is available as a free download.

Merry Christmas Micro$oft.

Yeah right. And they hired those of us who do the Mac port to code it. If only, I need the cash

Dan

normyzo · Jan 1, 2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by normyzo:
Yeah right. And they hired those of us who do the Mac port to code it. If only, I need the cash

Dan

There will be some announcements from us, but if they are in the keynote, I'll wet myself...

Dan

Adam Betts · Jan 1, 2003, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
Thats what the guy I know who knows a guy at Apple is saying.

-Owl

I heard that a chairperson (Gap guy) in Apple Board is giving Steve Jobs a new black turtle neck sweater, a GAP exclusive... as his christmas present. I bet this will piss off JcPenny cuz they've made a contract with Steve Jobs (last time I heard, it expired last Aug)

TheIceMan · Jan 1, 2003, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by pat++:
I heard recurring rumors, that Steve Jobs will be wearing jeans and a black sweater

Funny. For a guy who heads a company with a "Think Differently" motto, Jobs sure likes to follow status quo when it comes to attire.