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malique · Jan 3, 2003, 10:33 PM

Hi,

I recently transferred my user folder to a completely new HD with a completely fresh OSX 10.2.3.

Everything seemed to run fine - but after 10 minutes everything QUIT, I got a blue screnn on both of my monitors (it was the defined BG color) and a mousepointer. No response to nothing. After a shock and 20 seconds everything was LOADED again like after a relogin - including the Finder.

now, okay, I have strange problems on OSX that's why I made the transfer anyway.

I am used to: programs crash, especially after booting the FIRST time I launch them or the first time I launch them after INSTALLING them. When starting the second time, they run flawlessly 9 for days...

This also happens on my NEW system now.

I had a second blue screen of death now: but w/o all programs reloading, no kernel panic, nuthin. I really had to reset by force.

I still have both my HDs on and now no keychain is found anymore, though they are there.

I fear I have a electricity problem with my OLD HD and my NEW OS X is still accessing this one if a program asks for an absolute path.

Anyone have experience with OSX and its behaviour when it can't access a disk it wants?

The most recent BSoD happened after I CMD-q my StarCraft�... which I did a thousand times before w/o problems.

Any ideas would be useful.

I had one myself: maybe my Jag disk is broken. I will get a new one and plan to let it run over my recent installation w/o harming my recent user folder. Does that work and replace all the system files w/o touching my prefs and stuff?

HELP!

mrtew · Jan 3, 2003, 11:15 PM

That blue screen logout is what happens when the Window manager quits on you. Rather than all the reinstall why don't you run Norton or Disk Warrior or at least Disk Utility from your CD? Good luck! Since this problem followed you from your old hard drive I'd say that you have a bad preference file. If you can figure out when it's happening you might be able to just dump the one that's bad, but you might want to consider just dragging all your prefs out of your Library folder and starting over with them. Try that!

trusted_content · Jan 4, 2003, 02:17 AM

If you dragged your whole user folder over, chances are there's something in your user Library that's pissing off the OS... I'd suggest culling the preference files or just not transferring the Library at all, and defining all those again...

malique · Jan 4, 2003, 08:05 AM

Hi,

thanx for your replies... I diskwarrior'd the disk and will see what happens. I wonder that a frciking PREFS file can crash the "ultrastable OSX" (why not build in a Registry? :-P )

I will do so if nothing helps.

Last time it happened was when quitting StarCraft but BEFORE the winMan was able to switch the solution back. So I was stuck in 800x600 or so - and blue.

What is the name of that pref? and: should I kill all the com.apple. prefs, too?

Scifience · Jan 4, 2003, 08:32 AM

Just an idea if what was suggested above doesn't help. If you have .Mac, then use iSync to sync your address book and calendars. Then, copy your Documents, Pictures, and Movies folders onto a CD. These folders don't typically store any files that directly effect the operating system. Then, format the new HD again and do a completely clean install of OS X. Re-sync your address book and calendars, this will put them back on your machine. Copy your documents, pictures, and movies into your new home directory. That should remove any messed up preference files, and leave you with a clean system.

P.S. IF you don't have .Mac, a trial account should work.

malique · Jan 4, 2003, 08:55 AM

hmm. you know, with 60GB this "erase your hd" is not so much fun to do. Isn't it possible to just kill all prefs (!) and reboot, so the OS etc will build new ones?

Sven G · Jan 4, 2003, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by malique:
Hi,

I recently transferred my user folder to a completely new HD with a completely fresh OSX 10.2.3.

Don't know if this is the cause of the problem, but be sure to "transfer" the /Users directory correctly: The Bomb(ich)� "rulez" on this front!

malique · Jan 4, 2003, 09:18 AM

Ya, it was a bit different cause my old system (as I wrote sum time ago in a different thread) was kinda messed up. I don't want to relate to that here.

A friend, an apple tech, did the transfer - he told me he did it like Apple likes it (there's a how-to on the apple.com pages for the insiders).

Everything except THIS seems to run okay... so...

did I mention that after the crash all my keychain stuff doesnt work? and that means: no mails, no Proteus no...

I rebot into the repaired X and see what happened...

later.

malique · Jan 4, 2003, 09:23 AM

Hm. afai can see - the PW are back again... must play around sum more.

malique · Jan 4, 2003, 09:34 PM

Okay, I removed all the prefs. result: everything is blank and "ugly" - but the first thing I recognise is that my "system prefs" app crashes twice...

I think that system is fu**ed.

it is unbelievable that it is so IMPOSSIBLE to move a user to another system...

sandsl · Jan 4, 2003, 09:59 PM

You said had problems with your old system...surely its not the best idea to tranfer stuff from a system that is malfunctioning to a new system and then expect everything to work.

I wonder that a frciking PREFS file can crash the "ultrastable OSX"

It might not be a preference file thats causing your problems...it could be anything in the library..application support files for example.

it is unbelievable that it is so IMPOSSIBLE to move a user to another system...

Its not impossible, many people have succesfully tranfered users theres even a tutorial for it!

Its unbelievable to think that you can transfer part of a malfunctioning system and expect and demand it to work perfectly on a new system.

malique · Jan 5, 2003, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by sandsl:
You said had problems with your old system...surely its not the best idea to tranfer stuff from a system that is malfunctioning to a new system and then expect everything to work.

It might not be a preference file thats causing your problems...it could be anything in the library..application support files for example.

Its not impossible, many people have succesfully tranfered users theres even a tutorial for it!

Its unbelievable to think that you can transfer part of a malfunctioning system and expect and demand it to work perfectly on a new system.

Ya, you might be al right - but all I tranfered was a user folder, not the system folder.

The most problematic thing (and the reason why I wanted the tranfer) is that my OLD OSX partition was just 2GB and way too small for my user folder (my Entourage Files need 1 GB!) and VM. I had to redirect them to another disk. And my HD drivers for that volumes are not original apple ones which (since Jag) causes my OSX not to recognise my user.

I always boot into a plain OSX and have to do this in the terminal:

su root
**********

cd /Volumes
rm -R My_Harddisk
mv My_Harddisk\ 1 My_Harddisk

and CMD-Shift-Q to relogin. Annoying.

so I bought a new HD to solve the problem for me and have time to do a stable transfer.

As u can see, I had to JOIN my user folder and a new system somehow.

I believe there's also problems deriving from the fact that I really upgraded all the systems since 1.0 :-)

Maybe my problem is really too specific to solve in here. I will try run a correct Jag version over my newly installed system. If this fails (I will test for 20 mins only, not more - normally the first apps crash in seconds) I do the reinstall.

But how can I SAFELY transfer my data then? I should not move specific folders which will force me to reconfig ALL Appz (try it with PS, FreeHand... etc. Ugh.)