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Trying to get to OS X via 9.2 via 9.1 via 9.04
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Jan 7, 2003, 07:52 PM
 
We're trying to load OS X on a 2001 G3 iMac running 9.04. (640 MB RAM.) My wife is Japanese, so it's got the Japanese foreign language kit installed.

I know that OS X requires OS 9.1 or 9.2; ideally we'd like to get to OS 9.2; but that requires OS 9.1. Because of the foreign language kit, Apple says we have to up-grade to 9.1 with the CD (i.e., not from an on-line download).

Well, I've got the 9.1 up-grade CD. It worked fine on my iBook.

But…the problem is that the iMac won't recognize the 9.1 CD as a start-up disk. Holding down the "C" key on restart doesn't work; the iMAC still boots with the Hard Drive.

Clicking on the 9.1 installer from the CD yields a message saying, "You have to boot from the 9.1 CD," because of the foreign language kit.

Any ideas? Much thanks,

Ryøkan

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Jan 8, 2003, 02:03 AM
 
I'm a bit lost about your problem. But here goes:

Is the 9.1 CD an update CD or a full 9.1 CD? If it is just an update, then it has no system on it. Obviously, no system=no boot.

Also, why do you need to boot the 9,1 CD? I think that you seem to have updated sucessfully, so installing X seems to be the next step.
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Jan 8, 2003, 02:07 AM
 
OS X doesnt require OS 9 of any form.

For a simplified installation, I suggest you do the following:



Wipe and partition your drive into an OS X and OS 9 partition

Install OS X onto your OS X partition

From within OS X, launch the OS 9 installer and install OS 9 onto your OS 9 partition; there should be no need for booting from CD
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Jan 8, 2003, 02:10 AM
 
I see no reason to partition. Just install OS X. As has been mentioned, you don't need OS 9 at all to run X.

Just kick back, relax, and enjoy the great Japanese support in OS X.
     
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Jan 8, 2003, 03:03 AM
 
Originally posted by trusted_content:
OS X doesnt require OS 9 of any form.

For a simplified installation, I suggest you do the following:



Wipe and partition your drive into an OS X and OS 9 partition

Install OS X onto your OS X partition

From within OS X, launch the OS 9 installer and install OS 9 onto your OS 9 partition; there should be no need for booting from CD
How does one launch the OS 9 installer (which is a Classic app) from OS X with no Classic installed?
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Jan 8, 2003, 03:12 AM
 
I had a similar problem with my aunt's iMac. Getting from OS 9.0.2 to 9.2.x required a whole bunch of D/Ls. Also there is a a firmware for some iMacs of that period that will screw you up bad if you don't update it before installing 10.2.
     
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Jan 8, 2003, 07:28 AM
 
Thanks to all for the input. It's really wonderful to get these responses. So…

1) The CD is a 9.1 up-date. However, I believe it does have its own system, since I've used it to boot my iBook--I had to do a clean install of 9.1. Holding down "C" while restarting brings up a different screen, and the CD runs the computer.

2) I hear what you're saying, that OS X can stand on its own. But the iMac has been used with OS 9 for 3 years, which means it's full of files and data that we want access to -- either from Classic, or by re-booting in OS 9 -- at least for the time being.

3) That said, I wouldn't mind partitioning the disk, if it can be done without losing a bunch of data. Is that possible? How does one partition the disk?

4) I'm confused about the relationship between OS X and OS 9x. In the info. on Apple's web-site, it says that OS X won't work with OS 9.04, and that OS X requires (I guess for Classic) OS 9.1 or 9.2. That's why I'm trying to jump through these hoops.

5) How about this -- if I remove the lanuage kit from OS 9.04, and manage to do a 9.1 up-date from the CD -- will my Japanese files still be there? Will they remain functional?

Thanks,

-- Ryøkan
     
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Jan 8, 2003, 08:02 AM
 
Well, I have to change the story. Sorry to mislead you all.

The 9.1 CD does not have its own system. I tried it again in my iBook and, sure enough, it doesn't work as a disk to boot from. I was confused because I had to do a clean install of 9.1 on my iBook a couple of weeks ago, and I know I used one of my disks.

But -- it was my iBook "Software Install" disk, not the 9.1 up-grade. So, that solves that mystery.

So, that leads to a different question -- is there any reason I can't use the iBook 9.1 "Software Install" disk on an iMac? Also, I'm now concerned about the firmware up-dates, and I don't know what "D/L" means.

Thanks,

--Ryøkan
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