[Ruby]

When I reopen Safari, the browser window opens toward the bottom of the screen. It never goes back to the way I sized it. Is this a bug or can I fix it myself??

[Ricky]

It's gotta be a bug. My Safari window sizes never stay the same.

[CheesePuff]

I believe mine does...

[Art Vandelay]

I found that if you turn on the Status Bar in the View menu, resize your window, then turn it off, it will fix this problem.

[Tiffany Mac]

My browser open up with the bottom part off the screen. I have to move it up or hit the green circle to get it back to a normal position. It must be a bug. I suppose one of us should submit it to Apple

[DigitalEl]

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
I found that if you turn on the Status Bar in the View menu, resize your window, then turn it off, it will fix this problem.

I'm at work right now on a beige box, but am excited to see this can be fixed. Anybody want to confirm Mr. Vandelay's solution?

[Ruby]

I tried the status bar thing and it didn't seem to work....if this IS a bug, then I consider it a pretty big one.

I'll give it another try though..

[yellowdog]

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
I found that if you turn on the Status Bar in the View menu, resize your window, then turn it off, it will fix this problem.

Tried it, but it didn't work. Looks like the same problem we had with iCal - probably the work of the same coder. You'd think they would have learned the first time around.

[redJag]

Coding is hard.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by yellowdog:
Tried it, but it didn't work. Looks like the same problem we had with iCal - probably the work of the same coder. You'd think they would have learned the first time around.

Worked on all three of my Macs.

[Cocoaholic]

This behaviour only occurs when the window is dragged full screen, make it a bit smaller and the jumping behaviour is gone.
Apple fixed this same problem for iCal already but for me it's also still in Sherlock and Safari.

btw, why doesn't clicking the plus widget resize the window to full screen like every other cocoa app?

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by Cocoaholic:
btw, why doesn't clicking the plus widget resize the window to full screen like every other cocoa app?

That is not the standard function of the Zoom button. It is not meant to maximize. For example, TextEdit behaves the same way. If an app maximizes, then the developer purposely changed the behavior to go against the standard.

[Gul Banana]

Anybody who doesn't like Safari moving their browser windows around for them (cascading, in other words), can now download an APE module that fixes it from http://homepage.mac.com/castiglione/software.html

[Rickster]

That is not the standard function of the Zoom button. It is not meant to maximize. For example, TextEdit behaves the same way. If an app maximizes, then the developer purposely changed the behavior to go against the standard.

You got the first part right, but not the second. The intended function of the Zoom button as recommended by the Human Interface Guidelines is to resize the window to a "standard" size -- typically, to resize it until no scrollbars are necessary and no further.

In Carbon, developers have to implement zoom button behavior (HIG-compliant or otherwise) themselves. In Cocoa, developers get "maximize" behavior for free and have to take an extra step to implement HIG-compliant behavior. (And do it again for every window in the app.) So there are a lot of Cocoa apps, and a lot of windows in Cocoa apps, that don't do it right. Kind of a shame... given how smart the NSView autoresizing feature is, you'd think Apple could implement a good HIG-compliant default window-zoom behavior that all apps get for free.

BTW, if you want "maximize" behavior in an app that does the "optimum size" trick, try messing with modifier keys -- some apps will maximize if you hold Shift or Option.