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Sharky K. · Jan 11, 2003, 04:51 AM

I had no problems in the beginning. What is this problem? I tried permissions fix, fsck -y, emtpy cache/ replaced preference folder etc...

Any solutions?

mmurray · Jan 11, 2003, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
I had no problems in the beginning. What is this problem? I tried permissions fix, fsck -y, emtpy cache/ replaced preference folder etc...

Any solutions?

Go into system pref's and create a new user. Log into that one and see how long it takes. That will at least tell you if its something in your user account.

I have had this kind of thing in the past and then it went away without me really knowing why.

What version of the OS are you in?

Michael

Sharky K. · Jan 11, 2003, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by mmurray:
Go into system pref's and create a new user. Log into that one and see how long it takes. That will at least tell you if its something in your user account.

I have had this kind of thing in the past and then it went away without me really knowing why.

What version of the OS are you in?

Michael

I tried this already and the new account has the same problem.
I am using the latest version 10.2.3

workerbee · Jan 11, 2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
I tried this already and the new account has the same problem.
I am using the latest version 10.2.3

Same thing here. 30" of really intense HD trashing after login.

It could (in my case) be related to the M$ database deamon that runs in the background (Entourage.X). It's not Suitcase or LaunchBar, AFAIK.

Sharky K. · Jan 11, 2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by workerbee:
Same thing here. 30" of really intense HD trashing after login.

It could (in my case) be related to the M$ database deamon that runs in the background (Entourage.X). It's not Suitcase or LaunchBar, AFAIK.

I have no MS software installed..

Sharky K. · Jan 12, 2003, 03:47 PM

no one knows?

CheesePuff · Jan 12, 2003, 03:51 PM

Prebinding?

Sharky K. · Jan 13, 2003, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
Prebinding?

does not solve the problem

derbs · Jan 13, 2003, 05:43 AM

this happens to me as well. I thought it would be file/web sharing starting up, as that always thrashed my hard disk in OS9.

ambush · Jan 13, 2003, 05:47 AM

It's normal.
It's like all the daemons starting up.
e.g. aped, etc.

You can delete some in sys. prefs. ->login items.

Sharky K. · Jan 13, 2003, 06:06 AM

I only have clock.app in login items. How can I remove others that are not visable?

derbs · Jan 13, 2003, 06:11 AM

Sharky - try going to System Preferences > Sharing.

How many services have been checked? Uncheck them all, and restart, and let me know if your hard disk keeps spinning.

Sharky K. · Jan 13, 2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by derbs:
Sharky - try going to System Preferences > Sharing.

How many services have been checked? Uncheck them all, and restart, and let me know if your hard disk keeps spinning.

they are already off.. I even turned off firewall

eno · Jan 13, 2003, 07:04 AM

I get this too on the Dual-1.25. And it used to happen in the Pismo I had before that.

Log in with my main account and it churns for at least 30 seconds before you see the desktop, and THEN for another 15 seconds while it launches all its login items.

If I log in with a new, blank account, the delay between pressing "enter" and arriving on the desktop is about ONE second.

There's some kind of degredation going on here and I am not sure exactly where from. It is a gradual deterioration: it wasn't like this when I first got the machine in October.

What could it be? Let's eliminate login items from the list of possible targets, because like I said, I can see them starting AFTER the initial 30 secs of churning.

Some kind of corrupted cache issue?

Service running? None. No ftp. No ssh. No nothing.

Sharky K. · 01:55 AM

what is process "pbs"?
and I also have 4 time nfsiod in my process list.

Oke I found on the web:

The pasteboard server; analogous to the clipboard under Mac OS 9.

why is this taking so much disk acces?

http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/..._Sequence.html

Sharky K. · Jan 15, 2003, 06:32 PM

no idea?

OpenStep · Jan 15, 2003, 10:20 PM

My PowerBook does this excessive disk activity too... I've left my laptop on at night to let it run the maintenance scripts automatically and it seems to have reduced the time it takes to finish accessing the disc. Might be worth trying.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jan 16, 2003, 01:12 AM

It is totally normal and part of the startup prosess.

Sharky K. · Jan 16, 2003, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
It is totally normal and part of the startup prosess.

how do you know this?
and why is this not when you install os x fresh?

kvm_mkdb · Jan 16, 2003, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
how do you know this?
and why is this not when you install os x fresh?

He's right. You can see it by looking at top while you log in.

The more programs you have installed, the longer it takes to startup when it goes trough them.

Used to be much worse on 10.1.

glowingcactus · Jan 16, 2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by OpenStep:
My PowerBook does this excessive disk activity too... I've left my laptop on at night to let it run the maintenance scripts automatically and it seems to have reduced the time it takes to finish accessing the disc. Might be worth trying.

Well I just ran MacJanitor and ran "all tasks" and logged out and back in and no difference. Still a lot of disk activity after login.

Im just wondering if it is because I have my applications folder in dock.... I will try removing it....

CheesePuff · Jan 16, 2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
does not solve the problem

No, I mean thats what it is doing. It automatically does it for you in Jaguar OS X 10.2.

glowingcactus · Jan 16, 2003, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
No, I mean thats what it is doing. It automatically does it for you in Jaguar OS X 10.2.

I thought prebinding was what was done when the installer says "Optimizing.....". Are you saying there is more prebinding done everytime a user logs in maybe for apps that were not optimized by an installer?

Can anyone give us a "prebinding for dummies" summary?

(for the record removing my Applications icon from the dock did not work)