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andreas_g4 · Jan 27, 2003, 05:56 PM

Since I only have a 5 (4.66) GB iPod and about 4 Gigs of music on it, I need a really small Mac OS X 10.2.3. Do you know of any source where I could get info on what files are dispensable.
I know there will be a not so little performance lack due to the system has no room for VM, but will it work nevertheless?

cpac · Jan 27, 2003, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by andreas_g4:
Since I only have a 5 (4.66) GB iPod and about 4 Gigs of music on it, I need a really small Mac OS X 10.2.3. Do you know of any source where I could get info on what files are dispensable.
I know there will be a not so little performance lack due to the system has no room for VM, but will it work nevertheless?

I have no idea about a slimed down jaguar, but I can tell you the idea of installing X on a iPod has been discussed before and the general consensus was that it was a *BAD* idea as the iPod harddrive/enclosure is not built to run under the conditions OS X would require and would probably result in your hard drive breaking. Somebody had also mentioned that Apple will not replace iPods under warranty if they find system software installed on their HD.

So proceed with caution/at your own risk...

undotwa · Jan 27, 2003, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by cpac:
I have no idea about a slimed down jaguar, but I can tell you the idea of installing X on a iPod has been discussed before and the general consensus was that it was a *BAD* idea as the iPod harddrive/enclosure is not built to run under the conditions OS X would require and would probably result in your hard drive breaking. Somebody had also mentioned that Apple will not replace iPods under warranty if they find system software installed on their HD.

So proceed with caution/at your own risk...

Running OS X on an iPod is fine.

xtal · Jan 27, 2003, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by cpac:
I have no idea about a slimed down jaguar, but I can tell you the idea of installing X on a iPod has been discussed before and the general consensus was that it was a *BAD* idea as the iPod harddrive/enclosure is not built to run under the conditions OS X would require and would probably result in your hard drive breaking. Somebody had also mentioned that Apple will not replace iPods under warranty if they find system software installed on their HD.

So proceed with caution/at your own risk...

I thought that one of the marketing points of iPods (when they were first released) was the ability to use them as bootable drives with an OS installed. Am I mistaken?

Granted, I've never tried this before.

Spliff · Jan 27, 2003, 11:16 PM

Since I only have a 5 (4.66) GB iPod and about 4 Gigs of music on it, I need a really small Mac OS X 10.2.3. Do you know of any source where I could get info on what files are dispensable.

Use Carbon Copy Cloner. The read me will tell you which files you can leave out.

But even better would be for you to ask the author of Carbon Copy Cloner for help. Post at his forums and he'll answer your questions, but do a search first.

http://65.69.94.113/forums/

wataru · Jan 27, 2003, 11:23 PM

I have no firsthand experience with booting from an iPod, but everything I've ever read about it has been very negative. My advice would be to not do it.

Xeo · Jan 28, 2003, 01:47 AM

I don't have my papers with me so I can't check, but I've been told that installing an OS on your iPod will void the warranty.

The BSD layer is unneeded. You can choose not to install it. You will be able to do very little command line stuff or use apps which use command line stuff, but it's still possible to boot without it.

You could try using BootCD to creat a bootable disk image, then Carbon Copy Cloner the contents of that disk image to your iPod. This will result in a bootable OS X install which is less than 650 MB. I've never tried this but it seems like it should work.

juanvaldes · Jan 28, 2003, 01:53 AM

cut out BSD, the language packs and if you can (I'm not sure) mabe go in and trim some of the fat ie drivers for stuff you dont' have)

alex_kac · Jan 28, 2003, 01:58 AM

It still might be useful purely as an emergency backup startup disk.

l008com · Jan 28, 2003, 03:13 AM

I don't know about the iPod, but avoid Carbon Copy Cloner! I tried it and after it ran my computer would no longer boot, it gave me the broken system folder and I had to reinstall my OS. And this was the drive I copied, not the copy that was made (it also didn't work).

SMacTech · Jan 28, 2003, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by l008com:
I don't know about the iPod, but avoid Carbon Copy Cloner! I tried it and after it ran my computer would no longer boot, it gave me the broken system folder and I had to reinstall my OS. And this was the drive I copied, not the copy that was made (it also didn't work).

I have used CCC many times without a single problem. It does nothing to the source disk at all.

rlmorel · Jan 28, 2003, 06:59 PM

I agree. I have paid for and used Carbon Copy Cloner many times. It is a wonderful, easy to use application. When I suggest a Mac to prospective buyers, I now tell them to purchase a FW HD that can mirror their internal HD, and use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up to it once a week, or more often if needed.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Jan 28, 2003, 07:08 PM

Don't install all the Printer drivers and language packs.

barbarian · Jan 28, 2003, 07:16 PM

I've had no problems running OS X from an ipod.

I did it like this.

1. I created a disk image that was 4 megs.

2. I used carbon copy cloner to copy over all essential files.

3. I then used a de-localizer program to get rid of language packs.

4. I then went in and got rid of nonessential stuff like extra desktop pictures.

5. At this point I had 960meg system and I used CC cloner to get this all on the ipod.

6. I've had no problems except on some older machines it is hard to get the ipod to boot. Otherwise no problemlemo.