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Zitax · 02:20 PM

Hi, Im not talking of new macs.
In a G4 I have installed osX only, no os9, and now that I want to install os9 starting from the CD, the HD is not mounted, how can I fix it ?
Thx

Moose · Jan 30, 2003, 01:15 PM

You boot from the CD and install it.

Zitax · Jan 30, 2003, 01:21 PM

hehe, as I said I booted from os 9 and the HD is not shown, so I cant install it.

Mr. Blur · Jan 30, 2003, 01:27 PM

when you installed x, you did not tick the box that said something like "install os 9 (or classic) disk driver" - search this forum as this has been covered *many* times already....there is also a knowledge base article at apple.com which might help you out (the link to it is in at least one of the other old threads already....)

gorickey · Jan 30, 2003, 01:29 PM

I've heard you must do a "Clean Install" of OS 9 when installing through OS X (doesn't affect anything of OS X at all), or something like that....if you check "Clean Install" in the OS 9 installation, does the HD show up?

Zitax · Jan 30, 2003, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
I've heard you must do a "Clean Install" of OS 9 when installing through OS X (doesn't affect anything of OS X at all), or something like that....if you check "Clean Install" in the OS 9 installation, does the HD show up?

The "HD IS NOT SHOWN" so I cant install.

gorickey · Jan 30, 2003, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Zitax:
The "HD IS NOT SHOWN" so I cant install.

Uh huh, I got that part.

Good luck man.

Zitax · Jan 30, 2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Blur:
when you installed x, you did not tick the box that said something like "install os 9 (or classic) disk driver" - search this forum as this has been covered *many* times already....there is also a knowledge base article at apple.com which might help you out (the link to it is in at least one of the other old threads already....)

I found the discussions, but no solutions.
Anyone ?

wataru · Jan 30, 2003, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Zitax:
I found the discussions, but no solutions.
Anyone ?

Read again.

You need to have checked the "Install OS 9 disk drivers" when you formatted the drive. You will likely have to reformat it if you want to install OS 9.

Zitax · Jan 30, 2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by wataru:
Read again.

You will likely have to reformat it if you want to install OS 9.

There must be another solution. Anyone ?

Person Man · Jan 30, 2003, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Zitax:
There must be another solution. Anyone ?

No, there is no other solution. Prior to 10.2, when you formatted the drive and installed the operating system, drivers were installed for OS 9 by default. Now, you have to specify when you format the drive. The OS 9 driver gets put into a tiny "hidden partition" on your drive, and if you don't install the OS 9 driver, that partition doesn't get created.

You will have to reformat your drive with the OS 9 driver option on if you wish to install OS 9 on that disk.

gorickey · Jan 30, 2003, 04:51 PM

The only other solution I can think of, and which is probably the best, is DO NOT INSTALL OS 9!! Haven't needed it in months...

How about an external HD you can install on?

Person Man · Jan 30, 2003, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
The only other solution I can think of, and which is probably the best, is DO NOT INSTALL OS 9!! Haven't needed it in months...

How about an external HD you can install on?

I don't think he would be installing it if he didn't need it...

piracy · Jan 30, 2003, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Zitax:
There must be another solution. Anyone ?

No. If you didn't check "Install OS 9 drivers" when the disk was formatted, or formatted as UFS, there are no other solutions other than reformatting.

(You could try something, with no guarantees that it will work, and no guarantees it won't screw up your disk: open the version of Drive Setup in the utilities folder on your Mac OS 9 CD. Select the drive from the list, and select "Update Disk Driver" from the menu, if possible; then reboot. Depending on how the drive was originally formatted, this may work for you. If not, I'm afraid you'll have to reformat.)

bgordon · Jan 30, 2003, 09:03 PM

I had the same problem -- I reformatted a new HD, even installed the OS 9 drivers, put OS X on my machine, then tried to put OS 9.0 on the machine -- no dice.

My theory is that maybe (???) you can't use 9.0 as Classic (me, theorizing???), so thus X won't let you install 9.0. I could have tested my theory by installing 9.1, but I had given that disk to my mom, and had no other options than to reformat the disk again, put 9.0 on it, successively upgrade to 9.2.2, then put OS X on it.

Took awhile, and annoying.

Can anyone verify if 9.0 can be used as a Classic OS in X? If it's true, as I think it may be, that might be one explanation.

Art Vandelay · Jan 30, 2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by bgordon:
I had the same problem -- I reformatted a new HD, even installed the OS 9 drivers, put OS X on my machine, then tried to put OS 9.0 on the machine -- no dice.

My theory is that maybe (???) you can't use 9.0 as Classic (me, theorizing???), so thus X won't let you install 9.0. I could have tested my theory by installing 9.1, but I had given that disk to my mom, and had no other options than to reformat the disk again, put 9.0 on it, successively upgrade to 9.2.2, then put OS X on it.

Took awhile, and annoying.

Can anyone verify if 9.0 can be used as a Classic OS in X? If it's true, as I think it may be, that might be one explanation.

When installing OS 9 where OS X already exists, you need to select "Clean Install." Otherwise, the OS 9 installer defaults to upgrade mode. Obviously, OS 9 can't upgrade OS X, therefore it won't let you.

Xeo · Jan 31, 2003, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by piracy:
(You could try something, with no guarantees that it will work, and no guarantees it won't screw up your disk: open the version of Drive Setup in the utilities folder on your Mac OS 9 CD. Select the drive from the list, and select "Update Disk Driver" from the menu, if possible; then reboot. Depending on how the drive was originally formatted, this may work for you. If not, I'm afraid you'll have to reformat.)

Try this.

Mediaman_12 · Jan 31, 2003, 06:14 PM

I am more screwed than this!!!!
Classic seames to have got somehow 'broken' (gets to the Mac OS 9 screen, stops. No progress bar, nothing else happens), so it neads re-installing. Now this is the kicker.
I have loads of OS9 installer CD's 9.0 (came with old G4). a 9.1 & 9.2.1 (Bought from Apple), a 9.1.x that came with OSX, a 9.2.2 & Software restore CD's that came with my new Quicksilver. The ONLY one of these CD's that I can see in the Start up disk selection option (option key at startup) is the 9.2.2 CD. If this CD starts to boot once it has loaded the extensions, the startup crashes with a 'IO error Hold shift to start up with out extensions (Restart button) Dialouge box (doing this just get't to this screen a bit quicker).
so what can I do? Classic no longer works within OSX (and you nead a working Classic to launch the OS9 installer) I can't boot into OS9 from the HD and all my ligitimate OS9 CD's won't boot the damb thing ether.
Thank god for the 'Hold down X to force OSX start up' feature.