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Feb 3, 2003, 04:35 PM
 
I live in the droms at a college. They have blocked the ability to host a website. People can't conenct (they get timeout errors) However, people can still ping my IP, and chat using AIM, so transmission is possible.

Do you guys have any thoughts on how I could get around this? I just want to setup a little website on my machine.

Some quick notes:

1) Anyone on the network can see my website, but outside is no go.
2) Only the droms are like this. the campus computer labs are open to everything.
3) I tried talking to a campus person. They said they blocked the ability for me to ping out side the network, and host sites for security reasons.
4) My IP is 130.86.213.117 (and that is static)


Someone was telling me about seting up a wingate, but I have no clude what that is. Any help would be great!
     
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Feb 3, 2003, 05:33 PM
 
change the port number from 80 to something else and see if that works...

If you don't know where that file is... look via google...

It's in your Apache config files...
     
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Feb 3, 2003, 05:39 PM
 
It's common to use 8080 when 80 is blocked. You could give it a shot.
     
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Feb 3, 2003, 05:48 PM
 
Just a word of caution though - if they block port 80 they probably also watch for servers - if they see significant traffic they won't have any hesitation before they disconnect you for the rest of the year - I had to learn that one the hard way.

Another suggestion to limit bandwidth would be to host the images/media on your site (bulk of the bandwidth) somewhere else, and just serve pages on your machine.
     
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Feb 3, 2003, 05:52 PM
 
Originally posted by awaspaas:
Just a word of caution though - if they block port 80 they probably also watch for servers - if they see significant traffic they won't have any hesitation before they disconnect you for the rest of the year - I had to learn that one the hard way.

Another suggestion to limit bandwidth would be to host the images/media on your site (bulk of the bandwidth) somewhere else, and just serve pages on your machine.
I have to agree with this. Be cautious about what you host. If you keep it "under the radar" you'll be OK. Use a vague port number; check the list of known ports and use something NOT in the list.

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Feb 3, 2003, 06:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Xeo:
It's common to use 8080 when 80 is blocked. You could give it a shot.
No go

Could someone port scan me, and see what ports are listed as "open"? I tried port scanning myself, but that does me no good (it says 80 is open, but still noone outside can connect).

My IP is 130.86.213.117
     
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Feb 4, 2003, 06:07 AM
 
Originally posted by kupan787:
No go

Could someone port scan me, and see what ports are listed as "open"? I tried port scanning myself, but that does me no good (it says 80 is open, but still noone outside can connect).

My IP is 130.86.213.117
Of course port 80 is open, otherwise you couldn't surf the net. But it's a one-way passage. Traffic initiated from the outside is blocked, i. e. normal people trying to access your web server.
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Feb 4, 2003, 04:18 PM
 
Originally posted by kupan787:
3) I tried talking to a campus person. They said they blocked the ability for me to ping out side the network, and host sites for security reasons.
4) My IP is 130.86.213.117 (and that is static)
If your network administrator is blocking your ability to do something for security reasons, then you should listen to them. Do not annoy the network administrator or you will find yourself without ANY network access. Chances are that they have a reason for blocking access. If you absolutely must have a webserver running in your dorm room, ask for permission, have a good reason why they should make an exception in your case, and have the demonstratable technical know-how to run a web server safely and securely.

If you decide to ignore this advice, and run a webserver in violation of their stated AUP, be prepared to lose your network access, your accounts, face charges through the school's grievance process, etc.

mathias

edit:
Here's the URLs for CSU Sacramento's ResLink AUP and security policy -
http://www.csus.edu/uccs/inetemail/r.../acceptuse.htm
http://www.csus.edu/uccs/about/policies/secupoly.html
(Last edited by rantweasel; Feb 4, 2003 at 04:30 PM. )
     
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Feb 4, 2003, 04:53 PM
 
Originally posted by OreoCookie:
Of course port 80 is open, otherwise you couldn't surf the net. But it's a one-way passage.
Ports are generally blocked on a directional basis by routers and firewalls, and you have to remember that ports do not necessarily match up on both sides of a connection. Blocking web server traffic inbound to the router from a dorm connection usually means blocking traffic with a source port of 80 and a destination port > 1023. A dorm computer trying to browse the web would usually send traffic inbound to the router with a random source port > 1023 and a destination port of 80. So traffic with a source port of 80 inbound to the router from the dorm is almost definitely blocked in this case.

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