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Force quit problem, any suggestions
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Feb 8, 2003, 10:03 AM
 
Hi all,

yesterday, while starting to play an mpg file, quicktime locked up on me. Just sat there with the spinning colour wheel.

I used force quit, to quit out, but it took 2 goes before QT would disappear.

I then ran quicktime for another clip and it did the same thing, after which it took 2 goes again to force quit.

This has continued to happen with any QT playable file.

Other than rebooting, is there a way to solve this. I know I can reboot, but I'd like to see if there's another way, so that in future, if I'm running something else that I don't want to stop at the time, then I could fix it without the reboot.

many thanks,

J.
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Feb 8, 2003, 02:48 PM
 
Let me preface the following comments by saying I haven't had problems with QT in OS X, but I also haven't used it all that often. There's not much that can be done, that I know of, other than to restart if restarting cures the problem. You may want to try logging out and back in, but that rarely solves cases like this one. The reason QT is freezing up is likely because the file you're using doesn't work well with it.

With that said, programmers will tell you that QT's implementation leaves a lot to be desired in OS X. It is incomplete and many vital parts aren't accessible to native Cocoa calls. (Cocoa developers are forced to use Carbon calls when dealing with much of QT.) Since QT was the original foundation of Carbon, it's probably one of the oldest (non OpenStep) components of OS X. It's probably begging for a really major overhaul, and it deserves one since it's such a key piece of software. Unfortunately, Apple's less than transparent in regard to any future plans (as well all know), so we won't know if such a rewrite is coming unless a rumor site breaks the news or Apple surprises us.

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Feb 9, 2003, 01:10 AM
 
I'm not sure if force quitting is the same as the kill command, but if you're not scared of the terminal, type "top", find the program you want to quit, find it's PID # (the left column beside the program name), press 'q' to quit top, then type kill PID where PID is the PID # you found when running top. This process is likely the same as force quitting an application, I'm sure someone will know for sure.
     
   
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