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X11 .2 is out
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Feb 10, 2003, 03:02 PM
 
I'm downloading it from versiontracker right now.
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 03:52 PM
 
ooh! focus-follows-mouse support! thank you apple!!
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 04:03 PM
 
bummer - for me, it installed but now the windows are old "xdarwin" style windows, meaning only yellow and red buttons, and both close the window (no minimize, no using the dock, etc).

i thought my xdarwin installation was gone but something must be pointing at some old remnants somewhere....

the app identifies itself as X11 .2

anyone know how to fix?
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 04:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Colonel Panic:
bummer - for me, it installed but now the windows are old "xdarwin" style windows, meaning only yellow and red buttons, and both close the window (no minimize, no using the dock, etc).

i thought my xdarwin installation was gone but something must be pointing at some old remnants somewhere....

the app identifies itself as X11 .2

anyone know how to fix?
Looking for the same answer!

     
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Feb 10, 2003, 04:29 PM
 
Try just restarting the app - that works for some.

Else try this:

sudo mv /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc /private/etc/X11/xinit/orig.xinitrc
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 04:35 PM
 
http://discussions.info.apple.com/We...22@.3bbf218a/3

Basically, just comment out the "twm &" and add "exec quartz-wm &" in the file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 05:03 PM
 
Originally posted by VEGAN:
http://discussions.info.apple.com/We...22@.3bbf218a/3

Basically, just comment out the "twm &" and add "exec quartz-wm &" in the file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
perfect - worked!

thanks!
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 05:46 PM
 
Rather than mess with /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc directly, I made a local copy and modified that.

To restore the (much faster and native-looking) Quartz window manager, from the Terminal, try the following:
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cd cp /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc .xinitrc chmod u+w .xinitrc pico .xinitrc
The first command puts me in my local directory.
The second command makes a copy of xinitrc to my local directory, calling it ".xinitrc" (the period is important). Xwindows will use the .xinitrc file before the one in /private/etc/X11/xinit provided it exists in my local directory.
The third command gives me permission to edit the file, since the original file didn't.
Finally, the fourth command starts the "pico" text editor so that I can change the file.

Once in pico, I commented out the line that starts twm and added the quartz window manager so that it looked like this:
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# start some nice programs #twm & exec quartz-wm &
To save in pico, use control-X and type "Y" to save. You can alternately edit the file with BBEdit or any other text editor.

This way I'm not messing with the default install.

Good luck,
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Feb 10, 2003, 06:40 PM
 
Let me add this question...

Anyone having a problem where once you quit X11 there are several unkillable processes left over?

An example-- I run X11 and a couple apps (including esd -- the esound daemon). They all run just fine, but when I quit, I'm left with something like this:

root 399 0.0 0.0 0 0 con- Z 31Dec69 0:00.00 (X11)
root 574 0.0 0.0 0 0 con- Z 31Dec69 0:00.00 (X11)

These processes are unable to be killed by root ("399: No such process"). esd is also left running (I think it should have been killed along with X11 since it was launched from my .xinitrc)

Then, when I try to relaunch X11 I get an error that it's already running (from the Console). this happens about 1 out of 5 times I run x11.

Anyone know a cause/solution? Currently restarting the machine fixes it. But that's sucky.

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Feb 10, 2003, 08:02 PM
 
Originally posted by VValdo:
Let me add this question...

Anyone having a problem where once you quit X11 there are several unkillable processes left over?
Yup, several people have already commented on the zombie processes. The only way I've gotten rid of them is to log out and back in.
     
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Feb 10, 2003, 08:27 PM
 
Other than the KDE problem I just noticed that copy and paste between X11 apps and OSX apps is broken. I'd initially run it with KDE's window manager and then restarted it with aqua-wm. So perhaps there was some zombie process left that screwed things up. Anyone else notice this?
     
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Feb 11, 2003, 12:58 AM
 
Originally posted by wingdo:
Yup, several people have already commented on the zombie processes. The only way I've gotten rid of them is to log out and back in.
Hmm. What I wanna know is how those processes got started. I mean, how and why does running x11 as me, an unprivilaged user, launch ANYTHING x11-ish as root? Whenever that happens, there are always security questions that arise...

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Feb 11, 2003, 02:35 PM
 
Just to go along with the above, I had artsd (the sound demon for KDE) left running after I'd quit X11. It was taking up 100% of my CPU load on my dual 867. So clearly it was chewing up resources.

I've not been able to replicate this yet. If I can I'll send in a bug report to Apple. Anyone else have this happen?
     
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Feb 11, 2003, 03:15 PM
 
Hi all,

Up to now, I was using X11v0.1 and
everything was working fine.

I did the mistake to upgrade to v0.2 and now everything seems broken. Funny enough,
when running the X11 app from the administrator account, everything works fine.

But when I try to use it from my regular account, X11 crash right away! The icon
bounce a couple of times and... nothing.

Could someone please help me out?

Thanks,

Chukapi.
     
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Feb 11, 2003, 03:43 PM
 
Hmm, okay it looks like it's a problem
with permissions...

Cannot create /tmp/.X0-lock ...

I think I've seen this before...
     
   
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