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graveguy · Feb 14, 2003, 03:41 AM

Greetings...

I understood the initial, satirical postings about every new release being 'more snappy' and the never ending, sarcastic comments about the debug code being the culprit for the sluggishness of OSX but enough already...I'm so sick of seeing the same stupid, allegedly funny posts every time anything is updated...

This old, old joke reminds me of SNL skits that should have been retired after a few runs...it was funny for the first couple of times but the humor is long, long gone...let's put an end to them now that we've all seen the joke ample times...

-GraveGuy

greener · Feb 14, 2003, 05:21 AM

I'm tired of seeing threads that talk about how annoying threads about "snappiness" and "debug code inclusions" are.

Chaaaosss · Feb 14, 2003, 05:28 AM

The next thread on this topic will be snappier when the admins remove the debug code from MySQL.

"What we need to do here is drive the dagger home."

morgan · Feb 14, 2003, 07:09 AM

Don't quit your day jobs just yet.

Scoo · Feb 14, 2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by graveguy:
Greetings...

I understood the initial, satirical postings about every new release being 'more snappy' and the never ending, sarcastic comments about the debug code being the culprit for the sluggishness of OSX but enough already...I'm so sick of seeing the same stupid, allegedly funny posts every time anything is updated...

This old, old joke reminds me of SNL skits that should have been retired after a few runs...it was funny for the first couple of times but the humor is long, long gone...let's put an end to them now that we've all seen the joke ample times...

-GraveGuy

I agree, but I'm afraid you're only egging on them with this post.

mitchell_pgh · Feb 14, 2003, 08:51 AM

I know... just stop talking about debug code... we all know it's there... Apple has posted this information for years...

sniffer · Feb 14, 2003, 08:53 AM

The three typical

threads are:

1. Meaningless none contribuding comments about issues most of us don't really find intresting.

2. Trolling threads.

3. None relevant threads that belongs in other forums.

But than again these are things that are part of the nature of forums on the www.

MacGorilla · Feb 14, 2003, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by sniffer:
The three typical threads are:

1. Meaningless none contribuding comments about issues most of us don't really find intresting.

2. Trolling threads.

3. None relevant threads that belongs in other forums.

But than again these are things that are part of the nature of forums on the www.

You forgot 4. Threads that degenerate in +1

Oh, +1

mitchell_pgh · Feb 14, 2003, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
You forgot 4. Threads that degenerate in +1

Oh, +1

Ya...

P.S. +1

Moonray · Feb 14, 2003, 11:29 AM

The threads about debug code will persist as long as there is debug code in the operating system because people are concerned about snappiness.

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Developer · Feb 14, 2003, 11:41 AM

Is snappy debug code an oxymoron?

This is something we should think about.

pliny · Feb 14, 2003, 12:35 PM

Thanks for the snappy� responses to the original poster's debug concerns, all.

SeSawaya · Feb 14, 2003, 12:42 PM

GREAT, pliny just trademarked "snappy". Now we'll have to pay him to use it.

My 2� is in the mail

pat++ · Feb 14, 2003, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I know... just stop talking about debug code... we all know it's there... Apple has posted this information for years...

Nice architecture diagram.

mitchell_pgh · Feb 14, 2003, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by pat++:
Nice architecture diagram.

I'm just not sure where the Snappy segment should go!

Simon · Feb 14, 2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by pat++:
Nice architecture diagram.

That is like so old...

No, the guy is right - all this snappy crap is just not fun anymore. The first time? OK. The second time? Well... But after 4 quadrillion times it's just a �ucking nuisance. Honestly. This board is floating belly-over with database erros, overworked admins and crap like that. We don't need to post additional baloney - the el cheapo servers are at the limit anyhow.

Threads that contain the words snappy or debug code as well as OS X should be deleted immediately and the guy who wrote it should get his Mac taken away from him and be given a C64.

ibobunot · Feb 14, 2003, 02:20 PM

You don't have to be so snappy about it.

Chaaaosss · Feb 14, 2003, 02:24 PM

ibobunot, relax.

His debug code wasn't removed is all.

mikellanes · Feb 14, 2003, 02:27 PM

at least those C64's were snappy in thier day, or was that a debugging code issue? ill have to ask a friend of a friend if that was removed or not.

kcmac · Feb 14, 2003, 04:32 PM

I think they put debug code in Windows as well....oops. Misunderstood the phrase. Guess they really said "da bug code".

dfiler · 05:44 PM

Hey, you mis-quoted them in this thread's title!

It should read:

Snappy ™

- and -

Debug Code �

Kenneth · Feb 14, 2003, 05:28 PM

What are those "terms".. I don't get it.

brachiator · Feb 14, 2003, 11:48 PM

So, does this mean that they finally DID remove the debugging code? Is that why it's not funny anymore? Did they take it out with the release of 10.2, or with one of the updates? It certainly doesn't feel snappier to me, dude.

Originally posted by graveguy:
Greetings...

I understood the initial, satirical postings about every new release being 'more snappy' and the never ending, sarcastic comments about the debug code being the culprit for the sluggishness of OSX but enough already...I'm so sick of seeing the same stupid, allegedly funny posts every time anything is updated...

This old, old joke reminds me of SNL skits that should have been retired after a few runs...it was funny for the first couple of times but the humor is long, long gone...let's put an end to them now that we've all seen the joke ample times...

-GraveGuy

brachiator · Feb 14, 2003, 11:50 PM

(just to keep the literalists up to speed...)

simifilm · Feb 15, 2003, 05:18 AM

Additionaly, I want to complain about people who only complain and fill up threads and therefore use precious bandwith with meaningless rubbish.

macmike42 · Feb 15, 2003, 04:53 PM

According to this, it really IS Snappier�. I knew it!

Moonray · Feb 15, 2003, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by macmike42:
According to this, it really IS Snappier�. I knew it!

But they don't tell whether it's snappier due to the removal of some debug code or for other reasons.
The discussion will continue.

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bradoesch · Feb 15, 2003, 10:58 PM

I haven't laughed this hard from a thread that's not in the lounge. You guys are hilarious! ibobunot and Chaaaosss, you guys really got me laughing!

rjenkinson · Feb 16, 2003, 01:08 AM

(one of the changes from the 10.2.4 update.)

-r.

stew · Feb 16, 2003, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by rjenkinson:
(one of the changes from the 10.2.4 update.)[/B]

Ah, that finally explains what the mysterious /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenSnappy.framework is for!

entrox · Feb 16, 2003, 06:04 AM

Pfff.. At least you don't have to endure a beowulf cluster of petrified Natalie Portmans pouring hot grits down your pants, which is being maintained by OOG the caveman, who in turn is a subordinate of the ******-guy living in SOVIET RUSSIA where all base are belong to them.

Really... and you complain about "snappy" and "debug code"

Simon · Feb 16, 2003, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by entrox:
Really... and you complain about "snappy" and "debug code"

No, I complained about a bunch of infantile idiots.

entrox · Feb 16, 2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Simon:
No, I complained about a bunch of infantile idiots.

Lighten up dude. Every site has some kind of joke, which has gotten really old over the past years.

I think Slashdot has the most, ranging from the petrified Natalie Portman over to the beowulf cluster right to OOG the caveman. SomethingAwful has Admiral Akhbar's "It's a trap!" and Fark is probably still struggling with Domo-kun and SOVIET RUSSIA! And don't get me started about all the variations of "fp" and "frist p0st".

MacNN has "Is it snappy?" and "Did they remove the debug code?". Relax, these will *never* go away and you can't do a thing about it.

rambo47 · Feb 16, 2003, 07:17 AM

Ecxellent job, macmike42! Actual documented proof of improved snappiness?. You'd better believe I'll be posting that at some other forums. Now to look for documentation on the debugging code�.....

Ron Goodman · Feb 16, 2003, 07:38 AM

Just remember, all your base are belong to us!

Simon · Feb 16, 2003, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by entrox:
Lighten up dude. Every site has some kind of joke, which has gotten really old over the past years.

I think Slashdot has the most, ranging from the petrified Natalie Portman over to the beowulf cluster right to OOG the caveman. SomethingAwful has Admiral Akhbar's "It's a trap!" and Fark is probably still struggling with Domo-kun and SOVIET RUSSIA! And don't get me started about all the variations of "fp" and "frist p0st".

MacNN has "Is it snappy?" and "Did they remove the debug code?". Relax, these will *never* go away and you can't do a thing about it.

Ah shut up. I'm not gonna let some forum newbie with a post count of 11 lecture me on the jokes of this board. I've been here since you've started learning the german genitive, so you are way out of line here buddy.

Fact is, there are not just some jokes here that never go away, but also - and let me repeat - many infantile idiots here too.

entrox · Feb 16, 2003, 09:45 AM

I'm sorry - I didn't know a postcount makes something less valid. I won't bother you anymore.

*plonk*

pliny · Feb 16, 2003, 10:13 AM

I'm not sure why this (de)bugs Simon so much.

Simon · Feb 16, 2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by pliny:
I'm not sure why this (de)bugs Simon so much.

Maybe because senseless crap makes the boards here less snappy?

brachiator · Feb 16, 2003, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Simon:
Maybe because senseless crap makes the boards here less snappy?

It's not senseless, Simon, nor infantile (if you're going to be a stickler). I'll give you adolescent, though. I'd agree, on some days, that it would be nice to have a wank-free board, but, then, if no jokes were allowed under your regime, and only tightly-controlled troubleshooting questions under the regime of the "no-whining-or-Apple-bashing" crowd, it would be a bloodless commissariat of a website.

Anyway, I think you're knowingly complicit. Not one damn person here is going to stop joking about "snappy" or "debug code" because you complain about it. You know this of course -- you must. It'll only egg on the Snappietiers, encourage them in their code debuggery.

Simon · 03:23 PM

Originally posted by brachiator:
Not one damn person here is going to stop joking about "snappy" or "debug code" because you complain about it. You know this of course -- you must.

Ah and now even a lawyer lectures me. You are just about the last guy I'd take advice from.

Fact is, except for about a dozen jerk kids nobody needs to post the snappy crap here, do they? The rest of the hundreds of members of this board can stay reasonable - even if they're not older than 14. Now guess who I can do without?

brachiator · Feb 16, 2003, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Simon:
Ah and now even a lawyer lectures me. You are just about the last guy I'd take advice from.

Fact is, except for about a dozen jerk kids nobody needs to post the snappy crap here, do they? The rest of the hundreds of members of this board can stay reasonable - even if they're not older than 14. Now guess who I can do without?

Ah, ad hominem shots. Most refreshing and mature, unlike those bitter and self-important "snappy" comments. I'm a convert now, I'll tell ya that, just from your example... good show of "staying reasonable." I won't quibble with you over your factual statements, since you seem to be in an empirical profession, and thus I doubt you'd overreach there.

Simon · Feb 17, 2003, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by brachiator:
Ah, ad hominem shots. Most refreshing and mature, unlike those bitter and self-important "snappy" comments. I'm a convert now, I'll tell ya that, just from your example... good show of "staying reasonable." I won't quibble with you over your factual statements, since you seem to be in an empirical profession, and thus I doubt you'd overreach there.

Well, now look here!

At least that was much better entertainment than "hey, 10.2.4 is more snappy because of the missing debug code ROTFLMAO, yadda, yadda..."

Thanks.

dillerX · Feb 17, 2003, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Ya...

P.S. +1

That stuff is only allowed in the lounge. Duh!

bewebste · Feb 17, 2003, 11:05 AM

I normally don't post snappy code jokes, but it's just so tempting to do it just to watch Simon fume.

Must... resist... snappy... jokes... agh!

<sung to the tune of I Love Rock and Roll>
I love snappy code!
Put in another line of debug code baby!
I love snappy code!
And chalk up another post for me!

+1