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Weird menu item behaviour today. Any ideas?
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Feb 18, 2003, 01:15 PM
 
So I started the machine up, everything loads and is happy, but when I get to the desktop, all of my menu items (clock, PPPoE, volume, and displays) were all gone. Just totally blank. I had to recheck everything in their respective preference panes. All's well, now, I suppose. I repaired permissions, which I forgot to do after the 10.2.4 update. I think I'm good to go, but it was odd. Any ideas why it did this?

Also ... just in case someone knows, I'll get this question out of the way, too. Sometimes, when I wake from sleep, the monitor doesn't wake with the rest of the system. Just blank screen -- no video, but everything else comes on. That's what happened again today, so I have to hold the power button down, shut down, and turn it back on (which is when the menu funkiness started). I've had this problem ever since 10.2. Any ideas on how to fix it, or what the problem is?

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Feb 18, 2003, 03:28 PM
 
My G4/400 had a similar problem to this, upon waking the system would not respond and the screen remained inactive. I never had this problem until the update from 10.2 to 10.2.1. Recently I reset my Power Management Unit (PMU) and immediately the problems ceased. I?m not sure if this is the correct course of action for your situation but it is an idea. The apple knowledge base has instructions on how to do this for your machine.

I did have a problem with my Apple menu items disappearing but it was due to a theme conflict in 10.2.4. Have you installed any themes since updating to 10.2.4?
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 03:13 PM
 
It did it again. Yeah, I installed some themes. It's irritating have to recheck all the prefpanes. I can live with it.

And the PMU? Is that the motherboard reset button? I look into the knowledge base. What will it reset if I do it? If there's a chance it will fix it, I'm willing to try.
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 03:21 PM
 
OK, read up on the PMU. I'll reset it now, and hopefull no more display troubles. Thanks for your help.
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 04:38 PM
 
Originally posted by MindFad:
So I started the machine up, everything loads and is happy, but when I get to the desktop, all of my menu items (clock, PPPoE, volume, and displays) were all gone. Just totally blank. I had to recheck everything in their respective preference panes. All's well, now, I suppose. I repaired permissions, which I forgot to do after the 10.2.4 update. I think I'm good to go, but it was odd. Any ideas why it did this?
I have almost the same probelm since 10.2.4. If I try and move or drag a menu icon off they all will just disappear and I have to go through and re-check them.

It did this before and after i repaired disk permissions after updating.
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 04:58 PM
 
Yeah, I restored Aqua. It's still doing this with the menus, even when I log out. It's irritating as all hell to have to recheck these. I don't want to do it every time I restart or log out. What the hell. Is there some preference I might be able to delete to fix this?
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 08:18 PM
 
wow i thought i was the only one with this problem
but most of the time i cant get them to show up, check or no check
sometimes my stuffit menu works, sometimes it wont
seems system ui server is the process for these, because when i log in it hangs sometimes, and none of my icons show up

and logging in and loggin out is hit and miss with it working or not workin

i dont know what the problem is either, i have a theme installed, but it did it before i installed the theme too, i even did a fresh install, and repaired permissions 4 times(im starting to think repairing permissions doesnt do anything, since i repaired them 3 times in a row, and it always found permissions to repair)

but yes it is annoying
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Feb 19, 2003, 08:45 PM
 
Yeah, it's driving me batty. Knowledgebase didn't help. Hopefully someone will come along.
     
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Feb 19, 2003, 09:10 PM
 
Irritating to say the least, I'm scared to touch my menu bar icons in fear that they will all disappear again.
     
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Feb 20, 2003, 05:46 PM
 


I tried deleting some prefs. No fix. Of course, I logged out and have to do it again. GDI!
     
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Feb 20, 2003, 06:55 PM
 
I had this problem to. I kept getting a message in Console.app about an exception being ignored because something couldn't respond to the _bluetoothCanLoad selector. Very annoying. Here's the (very bad) way I fixed it:

1. Make a backup of the file /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app/Contents/Resources/Autoload.plist.

2. Remove the following <dict> element from Autoload.plist (it's the last one on my machine, should be the same for everybody):
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<dict> <key>id</key> <string>-10010</string> <key>method</key> <string>_bluetoothCanLoad</string> <key>path</key> <string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Bluetooth.menu</string> </dict>
That fixed it for me. Does anyone else have a better fix? I don't use bluetooth at all, so I haven't looked at any of the bluetooth utilities. Does anyone know if there is an option somewhere to turn this menu off, and if that fixes the problem?
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Feb 20, 2003, 07:09 PM
 
I'll try that maybe after someone doesn't find a better way. I'd rather avoid fudging with plists like that.
     
   
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