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Hi I'm Ben · Feb 18, 2003, 09:09 PM

I just bought a new harddrive and i want to put everything on my 40 gig onto it.. i'd like to avoid installing OS X and all that again and just do a carbon copy... the problem i'm having is that... i CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT..

anyone?

Mr. Blur · Feb 18, 2003, 09:17 PM

Carbon Copy Cloner will do exactly what you want.

edit - or is it the hardware aspect of it you need help with? what Mac are you using?

JellyBeen · Feb 18, 2003, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Blur:
Carbon Copy Cloner will do exactly what you want.

edit - or is it the hardware aspect of it you need help with? what Mac are you using?

Blur, he did say he didn't want OSX on it. so ccc is not nesesary, are your two hardrives connected to the computer?

Mr. Blur · Feb 18, 2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by JellyBeen:
Blur, he did say he didn't want OSX on it. so ccc is not nesesary, are your two hardrives connected to the computer?

no, he said he wanted to clone and not have to go through the work of reinstalling x and all his software....at least that is how i read it.....

JellyBeen · Feb 18, 2003, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Blur:
no, he said he wanted to clone and not have to go through the work of reinstalling x and all his software....at least that is how i read it.....

You know what? I think I had misread that...sorry

I guess its a little ambiguous.

gunnar · Feb 19, 2003, 12:46 AM

I'm looking to do the same thing, complete carbon copy, but I'm wondering if Carbon Copy Cloner's "create disk image" will work with my external firewire drive. Will it really get everything and put into a disc image? How do I expand it and copy it back to my new hard drive if it has no OS on it?

BTP · Feb 19, 2003, 01:08 AM

Gunnar-

It will do exactly that. Read the manuals, it is easy and it will do what you want.

spiney · Feb 19, 2003, 08:33 AM

I have used carbon copy cloner for this exact reason many times, and I have used it on external firewire drives. Yes you can boot from them.

I did a powerbook the other day, CCC to the firewire drive, yank the internal drive, install a fresh one, and boot from the firewire drive and CCC back to the new internal.

It worked flawlessly.

gunnar · Feb 19, 2003, 11:05 AM

I have stuff on my FireWire drive that I don't want to lose. Will the disk image work make a selfcontained backup on the external, allowing me to boot from OS X CD and expand it, then run CCC?

Hi I'm Ben · Feb 19, 2003, 02:17 PM

Carbon Copy worked good, after i screwed with it...

at first it was being funny... but everything is copied it's like i never reinstalled.

<3 more space.
by the way, connecting two harddrives to a cube through IDE is a pain in the ass.

BTP · Feb 19, 2003, 11:14 PM

Gunnar-

Here is what I did. I needed a back up, so I took CCC and my Firewire HD (blank) and made a back up. I can boot from the FW drive and it is exactly the same as my original HD.

I don't know if you can run apps from a OS X intall CD. Actually, I am quite sure you can't. You can make install CD's with BootCD from CharlesS (charlessoft.com) I don't know it you can make a boot CD that will run CCC, but maybe you can. I just don't know.

CharlesS · Feb 19, 2003, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by BTP:
Gunnar-

Here is what I did. I needed a back up, so I took CCC and my Firewire HD (blank) and made a back up. I can boot from the FW drive and it is exactly the same as my original HD.

I don't know if you can run apps from a OS X intall CD. Actually, I am quite sure you can't. You can make install CD's with BootCD from CharlesS (charlessoft.com) I don't know it you can make a boot CD that will run CCC, but maybe you can. I just don't know.

If you use the latest version, 0.5.3, it should be able to run CCC.

gunnar · Feb 20, 2003, 12:27 AM

See, my FireWire hard drive isn't blank, but it does have enough space to offload my old internal hard drive onto it. If CCC can't do a disk image then I guess I'll just manually copy things off and reinstall the OS onto the new drive. I was hoping I could skip this step because I'm not sure if I'll get all the parts over.

CharlesS · Feb 20, 2003, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by gunnar:
See, my FireWire hard drive isn't blank, but it does have enough space to offload my old internal hard drive onto it. If CCC can't do a disk image then I guess I'll just manually copy things off and reinstall the OS onto the new drive. I was hoping I could skip this step because I'm not sure if I'll get all the parts over.

Carbon Copy Cloner doesn't really do much other than ditto and bless the drive. If you want to move it to a disk image, you can do it by doing this:

1. Create the disk image on the FireWire drive.

2. Get Info on the disk image and uncheck "Ignore ownership on this volume" under Ownership & Permissions. Then unmount and remount the image (we do this so the permissions don't get screwed up when te image ignores them).

3. Type this in the Terminal:

sudo ditto -rsrcFork

followed by a space (don't hit Return). Then, drag your internal hard disk's Desktop icon to the Terminal window.

4. Click the Terminal window, then type another space, and finally drag the disk image's Desktop icon to the Terminal window.

5. Click the Terminal window, and hit Return. Enter your password, and wait while it dittos your drive.

Note that a folder can be substituted for a disk image here - in this case you can skip step 2, and in the other steps you can drag the folder's icon over instead of the disk image's Desktop icon.

Later, you repeat this same process to ditto the files back to the new drive. After this, to make the new drive bootable, you type this in the Terminal:

sudo bless -folder

followed by a space. Then, you locate the System/Library/CoreServices folder on the new drive and drag that to the Terminal window, click the Terminal window, hit Return, and enter your password.

gunnar · Feb 20, 2003, 01:05 AM

Thanks CharlesS. Sounds a little tricky but I understand the process. Makes you wonder why Apple doesn't have a 1-click backup built into the OS so you can do just that.