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aderium · Feb 21, 2003, 10:16 PM

Well got to say I am a little dissapointed. I have a Titanium 800 and 512 mb ram, I am running some 3d Programs and while using bryce I realized I cannot work with hardware accelaration in OPEN GL, to slow. My friend shows up with a XP not even hi quality and he just roollss away in OPEN GL... and then my mac seems to 'page out' (??) or in way to much and everything seems slower day by day, even after defrag.. so whats the deal. Anyway anybody knows were I can find 3d Benchmarks or info on how to control Video cards ?
Thanks !

rlmorel · Feb 21, 2003, 10:23 PM

Your post is a bit difficult to understand. Are you saying you were running several 3D programs simultaneously with Bryce, with 512 MB RAM? Was the "not even hi quality XP" running the same set of programs? What do you mean you cannot work with hardware acceleration? Maybe it is just your grammar, but I am having trouble following you.

Morenix · Feb 22, 2003, 12:31 AM

your titanium its a dog food...

i sold my macs and i bought a pc.
config:
AMD 2.1GHz, 512MB RAM DDR 333, 80GB, GeForce 4ti.
With Windows XP. Like a champ, stable & very snappyyyyyyyyy!
Bye bye Apple... keep your slow Mac OS X and peace for Mac OS 9 users out there.

if you run os x,
may the troll force be with you.

a switcher

aderium · Feb 22, 2003, 12:35 AM

I am very happy with my mac, dont get me wrong.

Actually when I am working with 2D Programs I am fine.

What I ment by Hardware Accell. is that I noticed that certain Cards have software control panels for the Video Cards. Do we OS X Users have that option?

Running 3D programs one at a time. BTW even ran pretty good with several at once

aderium · Feb 22, 2003, 12:43 AM

Actually I updated to 10.2.4 a couple of days ago and you know what? About the open gl? I ll take that one back !

engaged · Feb 22, 2003, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by Morenix:
your titanium its a dog food...

i sold my macs and i bought a pc.
config:
AMD 2.1GHz, 512MB RAM DDR 333, 80GB, GeForce 4ti.
With Windows XP. Like a champ, stable & very snappyyyyyyyyy!
Bye bye Apple... keep your slow Mac OS X and peace for Mac OS 9 users out there.

if you run os x,
may the troll force be with you.

a switcher

But you miss the Mac community so much that you still look through all the forums at MacNN.

Awww - how sweet!

hudson1 · Feb 22, 2003, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Morenix:
your titanium its a dog food...

i sold my macs and i bought a pc.
config:
AMD 2.1GHz, 512MB RAM DDR 333, 80GB, GeForce 4ti.
With Windows XP. Like a champ, stable & very snappyyyyyyyyy!
Bye bye Apple... keep your slow Mac OS X and peace for Mac OS 9 users out there.

if you run os x,
may the troll force be with you.

a switcher

I have a brand-spanking new Dell laptop at work and it runs more slowly than my eMac. So there....

besson3c · Feb 22, 2003, 11:32 AM

People who value responsiveness as much as Moreonix need to find a different hobby, I think.

We are at the point where all computers are fast enough to keep up with us. Why sweat it over the seconds?

Find a computer that you work productively on and use it! There are a lot of variables to account for productivity other than processor speed.

The argument against me is "you're just resorting to sour grapes since Macs aren't as fast PCs". Sure, I'll take a fast Mac over a slow one, but I won't blow this way out of proportion like so many people do, IMHO.

sek929 · Feb 22, 2003, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Morenix:
your titanium its a dog food...[/QUOTE]

I am just curious, did you actually think that made sense when you wrote it?

Oh, and I hope you like your unspecified XP laptop, but maybe you should stop posting here.

As for the 3D stuff, do you have any power saving features turned on? (seeing how it is a laptop and all). I wouldn't sweat the speed though, 3D programs hog a computer's power like no else, even using Lightwave on the labs Dual 867s is slow.

Millennium · Feb 22, 2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by sek929:
Originally posted by Morenix:

your titanium its a dog food...

I am just curious, did you actually think that made sense when you wrote it?

This is Moronix we're talking about here. Of course he doesn't think it makes sense.

Oh, and I hope you like your unspecified XP laptop, but maybe you should stop posting here.

I'd be willing to bet he doesn't own the laptop he says he does. In fact, I'd be willing to bet his machine is at least three years old, and isn't a laptop. If he has a Mac -equally unlikely- I doubt it's anything more recent than a 9600 or so; i.e. OSX isn't even supposed to run on it.

You forget; this is a troll we're talking about here. In other words a supremely-pathetic loser, probably between the ages of 12 and 14, who doesn't get the attention so desperately craves in real life, so he takes it out on us online. The best way to handle him is to not care. Don't even give him the effort of putting him on your Ignore list.

Hi I'm Ben · Feb 22, 2003, 02:57 PM

i like windows.
to each his own.

besson3c · Feb 22, 2003, 03:00 PM

Ben: then why hang around here? You like Windows, PCs are cheaper and faster! Sounds like you are a happy man.

Hi I'm Ben · Feb 22, 2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by besson3c:
Ben: then why hang around here? You like Windows, PCs are cheaper and faster! Sounds like you are a happy man.

That's right, you should hate me because i use a Windows computer. You most hate 90% of the people around you. It's not like I don't have a mac. Did i say "I hate mac"?

no infact i love my mac.
i love my pc too.

when you're not ignorant and learn how to use both You'll be amazed at how good both can be.

besson3c · Feb 22, 2003, 03:10 PM

That's right, you should hate me because i use a Windows computer. You most hate 90% of the people around you. It's not like I don't have a mac. Did i say "I hate mac"?

no infact i love my mac.
i love my pc too.

when you're not ignorant and learn how to use both You'll be amazed at how good both can be.

Why should I hate you? Why assume this?

I could care less if you like Windows (or the Mac for that matter), no offense!

At first I thought you were just picking a fight, but now that you have announced you love your Mac, I just don't understand your original point since it did not include any arguments.

I like banannas.

(get my drift?)

ryju · Feb 22, 2003, 03:12 PM

ew i don't like bananas, ORANGES i like though.

Hi I'm Ben · Feb 22, 2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by besson3c:
Why should I hate you? Why assume this?
I could care less if you like Windows (or the Mac for that matter), no offense!
At first I thought you were just picking a fight, but now that you have announced you love your Mac, I just don't understand your original point since it did not include any arguments.
I like banannas.
(get my drift?)

not quite.
nothing about what i said was starting a fight, infact i think that's why i threw in "to each his own" but you little apple fan boys get all up in arms when you hear MICROSOFT WINDOWS BILL GATES. it's like trigger words.. you read it and you can't understand the rest of what is being said because it automatically makes you go stupid.

besson3c · Feb 22, 2003, 03:25 PM

nothing about what i said was starting a fight, infact i think that's why i threw in "to each his own" but you little apple fan boys get all up in arms when you hear MICROSOFT WINDOWS BILL GATES. it's like trigger words.. you read it and you can't understand the rest of what is being said because it automatically makes you go stupid.

Dude, you also need another hobby.

If these alleged Apple fan boys do this and it bothers you, why do you participate here? You said you love your Mac, so I guess you just enjoy playing devil's advocate for no particular purpose?

As you said, to each his own. Let the Apple fan boys/girls be as such. Don't try to enlighten them, or let them upset you. Let the Windows fan boys/girls be as such as well (they also exist).

It's not as if saying "I like Windows" is going to make the "Apple fan boys" think to themselves "WAIT, I like Windows too!! WOW!!! What a revelation, and I owe it all to Ben! What am I doing being an Apple fan boy in here and dissing Microsoft for? I like them... one might even say I LOVE them..... yes, that's right.... I LOVE MICROSOFT! I never knew I felt this way until now, thanks Ben!"

JLL · Feb 22, 2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Hi I'm Ben:
not quite.
nothing about what i said was starting a fight, infact i think that's why i threw in "to each his own" but you little apple fan boys get all up in arms when you hear MICROSOFT WINDOWS BILL GATES. it's like trigger words.. you read it and you can't understand the rest of what is being said because it automatically makes you go stupid.

Whoah!! A little aggressive, aren't we?

What did besson3c say? His post was a harmless little question.

Superchicken · Feb 22, 2003, 04:19 PM

Dude Banana soo should have been one of the orignal iMac colours!
I tottaly would have bought a banana iMac!

Anyway... my suggestion for speeding up your rig if your'e working with memory intencive apps is upgrade your RAM

Morenix · Feb 22, 2003, 07:33 PM

I have a brand-spanking new Dell laptop at work and it runs more slowly than my eMac. So there....

- guy, wake up, dont buy computers from brands like dell or compaq...

People who value responsiveness as much as Moreonix need to find a different hobby, I think.

- i can sell u my spectrum for $1299, isnt a pc and its good for word processing...

I am just curious, did you actually think that made sense when you wrote it?

- yep. only 4 days and i'm impressed with the velocity of this machine. its more productive than a dual 1.25... (@ my work)

wwweeeeeeeeeeeee

Tip of the week: See again 'the MHz Myth Video' and invite a hardware engineer.

sek929 · Feb 22, 2003, 09:33 PM

Ahh yes, the infamous second post it takes to tell that you are a moronic tool.

Your work? I didn't know they used dual 1.25s on paper-routes...

ApeInTheShell · Feb 22, 2003, 09:58 PM

you could visit deviantpc.com: it is like the g.i. joe episode where the joe's are zapped into an alternate reality ruled by Cobra.

MIllenium...the best option to have is a forum called, "The Troll Zoo". Eventually there would be too much of stench from all the arguing that the mod's would have to get out their pooper scoopers in go inside. But trolls can't clean up after themselves. Why do they live under bridges?

Seems the original poster solved his problem.

tooki · Feb 23, 2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by aderium:
Well got to say I am a little dissapointed. I have a Titanium 800 and 512 mb ram,

Get more RAM. 512MB is what I recommend for general use. For 3D I'd highly advise you to go to the max of 1GB.

tooki

fg · Feb 23, 2003, 02:46 AM

Also, Bryce is a bad bad 3d program. Not very mac friendly. If you are looking for a good 3D program on the mac I recommend Cinema 4D XL. Check it out at www.maxon.net

/F

JLL · Feb 23, 2003, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Morenix:
[i lost my moreno macnn username
because .Mac email]

No, you lost it because you weren't smart enough to change your e-mail address in your profile.

I guess three months wasn't enough time.

JLL · Feb 23, 2003, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by tooki:
Get more RAM. 512MB is what I recommend for general use. For 3D I'd highly advise you to go to the max of 1GB.

tooki

Haven't people read aderium's third post in this thread?

Richyfp · Feb 23, 2003, 06:00 AM

Be happy everyone!

10.2.4 seems to have made 3D a bit more bearable for aderium.

No need for all this bickering!

Morenix - there's just no need for you to come here and say that Macs suck or that Windows is the best thing in the world. Even if you consider that to be true - it's not constructive, it's not clever and it's not necessary.

Spheric Harlot · Feb 23, 2003, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by sek929:

Originally posted by Morenix:
your titanium its a dog food...

I am just curious, did you actually think that made sense when you wrote it?

So, sek, how's you're Portuguese?

I'm sorry, all the justified/unjustified (as it may be, I'm not touching that) flaming aside, but anybody who picks on a non-native-speaker's phrasing on T3h inTARnet without some sort of constructive aspect is just being a prick.

I, for one, really miss morenix's contributions to the forum from the time he was still a Macuser. The "no Photoshop" keynote video is classic. I still have that somewhere.

at heart, you're still a Mac guy, morenix. You know it, else you wouldn't be here. Yes, it's all just aluminum envy. Admit it.

-s*

wuzup101 · Feb 23, 2003, 11:18 PM

mmmmmm.... I bet your PC laptop doesn't look as nice as the mac

... I know none of ours do.

Timothy Maxwell · Feb 24, 2003, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by hudson1:
I have a brand-spanking new Dell laptop at work and it runs more slowly than my eMac. So there....

I run an office with six PC's. They are so buggy that I wish I could throw them all out of the window. In fact, I am the only person in my company that uses a Mac as his primary computer. I keep a PC on my desk because of industry specific software.

In addition, I don't know anyone who has a PC that isn't complaining about how unreliable they are.

mrgaskell · Feb 24, 2003, 12:34 AM

I'd like to go back to statement about bananas. Bananas are cool, but go best in cereal and in fruit salads with oranges, grapes and cherry jell-o. As for oranges, there too messy to eat hand peeled. If you hand peel them or even cut them you get orange juice under your nails and all you smell is orange for teh rest of the day. That's it. Thanks.