[Toyin]

I recently installed KDE 3.1 which uses Apples X11 b3. I believe Apple's X11 uses quartz acceleration but KDE resizes SO much faster than OSX. The contents don't update as frequently as in OSX, but the arrow stays with the window corner which makes it seem much more fluid. Why can't OSX sacrifice the frequency of window updates and place priorty on keeping the window corner and mouse arrow together?

[DBvader]

yeah, that is one of the few things that pisses me off about OS X. why is there no real time window switcing...look at windows moving and stuff...its amazingly fast.


its too bad...maybe in panther?

[Developer]

Originally posted by Toyin:
Why can't OSX sacrifice the frequency of window updates and place priorty on keeping the window corner and mouse arrow together?

It's up to the app to do that. TextEdit does for example.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by DBvader:
yeah, that is one of the few things that pisses me off about OS X. why is there no real time window switcing...look at windows moving and stuff...its amazingly fast.

Cuz it is ugly. Apple could move ugly fast no problem.

[stew]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Cuz it is ugly. Apple could move ugly fast no problem.

Don't know about you, but I have my computer to work with it and not to drool over it.

Instant feedback on user action makes it a lot more comfortable to work with a computer (that's why you see the zooming rectangles after you double-click something in the Finder). I don't want to trade usability for eye candy.

[Gul Banana]

Unfortunately for you, and fortunately for me, Apple feels differently. There actually are people who are willing to trade usability for sheer prettiness, and I'm vaguely ashamed to admit that I'm one of them. The cool bit is, when you run it on modern hardware (I'm talking dual 1GHz+) , OS X is fast, responsive AND very very pretty. I'll take that combination any day. There's no point in taking out the eye candy when the machines they sell _now_ can do it..

[stew]

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
There's no point in taking out the eye candy when the machines they sell _now_ can do it..

Machines like 700MHz iBooks? Despite QuartzGL and all, there is definately a lag in OS X' UI on my 800MHz iBook. Seriously, what is going on with it that scrolling a web page must be that slow? It doesn't involve any transparency, drop shadow or animation, just blitting pixels from A to B.

[OwlBoy]

Originally posted by Toyin:
I recently installed KDE 3.1 which uses Apples X11 b3. I believe Apple's X11 uses quartz acceleration but KDE resizes SO much faster than OSX. The contents don't update as frequently as in OSX, but the arrow stays with the window corner which makes it seem much more fluid. Why can't OSX sacrifice the frequency of window updates and place priorty on keeping the window corner and mouse arrow together?

One good looking thing over another.

-Owl

[Eug]

Originally posted by stew:
Machines like 700MHz iBooks? Despite QuartzGL and all, there is definately a lag in OS X' UI on my 800MHz iBook. Seriously, what is going on with it that scrolling a web page must be that slow? It doesn't involve any transparency, drop shadow or animation, just blitting pixels from A to B.

One of the (minor) reasons I got a TiBook was because even a 700 iBook's GUI is a bit slow for my tastes.

The 1 GHz G4 TiBook is significantly faster.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally posted by Developer:
It's up to the app to do that. TextEdit does for example.

it doesn't on my machine. can you elaborate?

[Toyin]

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
Unfortunately for you, and fortunately for me, Apple feels differently. There actually are people who are willing to trade usability for sheer prettiness, and I'm vaguely ashamed to admit that I'm one of them. The cool bit is, when you run it on modern hardware (I'm talking dual 1GHz+) , OS X is fast, responsive AND very very pretty. I'll take that combination any day. There's no point in taking out the eye candy when the machines they sell _now_ can do it..

Even on these machines resizing can be painfully slow (ie the iapps and certain browsers). You can come at it from 2 ways:
1) Make everything pretty and slow on 99% of your existing hardware
2) Make everything fast on most of your hardware but not as pretty

As hardware get's faster eventually these 2 approaches will meet. (Fast & Pretty). With the performance gap between Apple and it's competitors I'd think that they'd choose option 2 if it was available (which would also satisfy those with slower hardware).

So my original question stands. Can resizing by sped up a the expense of window content updates? Someone mentioned Textedit (which shouldn't need it) but why aren't more developers using this option if it's possible?