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capuchin · Apr 10, 2003, 01:41 PM

Subject says it all! 39.3mb.

ccrider · Apr 10, 2003, 01:48 PM

Enhancements

Enhancements delivered with this update include:

Digital hub and disc burning

Bluetooth Setup Assistant now works with certain Microsoft keyboards and mouse devices.

Includes Bluetooth support for Nokia 7650 and P800 phones.

Improves compatibility for discs burned with certain Panasonic consumer burners.

Adds Image Capture support for Canon EOS 10D, ZR65, and ZR 70 cameras.

Adds disc burning support for several device-LaCie d2 DVD Multi U&I Drive and d2 CD-RW 52x24x52x, Visual Frontier COHH-B1-A48 and COSP-B1-C24,
MacPower Cold Chisel 24x12x24x8x, and these BUSlink devices: FW5252FM FireWire 52x24x52x CD-RW drive, FW4848FM FireWire 48x12x48x CD-RW Drive, RW4040FM FireWire 40x12x40 CD-RW Drive.

Networking and Internet

Addresses an issue in which domain name lookups could fail if the DNS server responded with a very large reply packet.

Improves the way that LDAPv3 connections time out when idle.

Addresses a potential data loss issue that could occur when copying certain files to an SMB volume.

Addresses issues with Internet Sharing when certain types of DSL or cable modem connections are shared.

Improves security by resolving an issue in which a guest could gain read access to the contents of a shared Drop Box folder remotely.

The Internet preference pane can now store .Mac passwords that are up to 32 characters long.

Addresses an issue in which some Apple internal modems could not establish or maintain a connection to certain Scandinavian Internet service providers

Other

Improves Mail's selection of character encoding for messages sent in these languages: Arabic, Bulgarian, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Polish, Romanian, Russian, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian.

Improves Mail responsiveness for accounts configured with multiple POP servers, when the servers are unavailable.

Addresses an issue in which an application could unexpectedly quit when printing, if /tmp was missing or unavailable.

Addresses an issue in which a damaged GIF file, such as a Web site graphic, could cause an application to unexpectedly quit.

Addresses an issue in which certain PICT graphics could not be displayed.

Addresses an issue in which the date may unexpectedly be set to 1969 or 1970 during startup.

Addresses an issue when using the Hanin input method for Traditional Chinese in which Carbon applications could unexpectedly quit if a modifier key (such as Control) was pressed when no text insertion point was available.

Addresses an issue in which Classic fails to start ("Error 1016") when applications available to a non-Admin user are restricted.

Addresses an issue in which the Classic environment could become unresponsive after placing a Classic application's save confirmation dialog box in the background.

Addresses an issue in which using the Command-Option-Shift-Q key command would immediately quit the Classic environment.

Improves the reliability of AppleEvents traffic (inter-application communication) between software running in the Classic environment and native Mac OS X; addresses an issue in which a user might not be able to logout after using a Mac OS 9 version of America Online (AOL).

Mr. Blur · Apr 10, 2003, 01:55 PM

6L29 for those that like to know....

AssassyN · Apr 10, 2003, 02:03 PM

Sounds good!!!

Has anyone installed it yet? Noticed any "bad" changes such as the date issue and other things noticed in 10.2.4.? I'm glad they are working w/ the SMB transfers as I noticed them being quite quirky in the past.

megasad · Apr 10, 2003, 02:05 PM

Anyone have a direct link for the combo updater? 10.2 -> 10.2.5? I know Apple will post one eventually, I'm just hankering is all.

SteveJobs · Apr 10, 2003, 02:08 PM

Wow, the P800 and the new Nokia phone is supported AND my soon arriving Bluetooth mouse / keyboard combination from MS will work with it - w00t.

Steve

mdc · Apr 10, 2003, 02:09 PM

smooth stripes theme is still installed, candybar icons are all still there. my smb printing to a windows XP shared printer still works. the date and time are the same as they were before the reboot.

been using it for 10 minutes, have not noticed anything.

dbergstrom · Apr 10, 2003, 02:10 PM

Image capture works with my ZR70! I can download crappy pictures now

typoon · Apr 10, 2003, 02:13 PM

FINALLY! Been waitin all day for this. What took ya so long Apple?

sensorfreaky · Apr 10, 2003, 02:16 PM

I can confirm that it feels snappier.

CheesePuff · Apr 10, 2003, 02:17 PM

Ooh, P800 support!!

dr.george · Apr 10, 2003, 02:19 PM

so, is it Snappier� ???

gorickey · Apr 10, 2003, 02:22 PM

It installed 10.3 for me....

sensorfreaky · Apr 10, 2003, 02:28 PM

whoa!

bluetooth MS mouse support?

can anyone confirm this?

Not that I would want a laggy low-refresh rate bt mouse to begin with... but I bet a lot of other folks would.

yellowdog · Apr 10, 2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by mdc:

been using it for 10 minutes, have not noticed anything.

The magic of Apple. Perhaps that's why it is a free download. I'm saving my pennies for 10.3

MindFad · Apr 10, 2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
It installed 10.3 for me....

Holy crap. Me, too! I have shaded list windows, snappy resizing, the works!

I guess this means the Unreal demo should pop up and minute now, right?

SteveJobs · Apr 10, 2003, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
Holy crap. Me, too! I have shaded list windows, snappy resizing, the works!

I guess this means the Unreal demo should pop up and minute now, right?

any minute is a bit quick, but tomorrow or next week is pretty likely, I would say. YEAH :-)

Steve

fisherKing · Apr 10, 2003, 02:37 PM

installed fine, lost my custom boot panel

(but i should have expected that)

no other problems

finder is just as slow as before!

looking forward to seeing something visible in this update...

mitchell_pgh · Apr 10, 2003, 02:37 PM

HELLO!!!!

Did it enable the robotic arms that are hidden in the dual mirror door G4 PowerMac!!!

They are totally useless...

That's it... I'm moving to Windows

Eug · Apr 10, 2003, 02:39 PM

Improves compatibility for discs burned with certain Panasonic consumer burners.

OMFG!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see if my discs from my Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD recorder work. Check out this thread for more info on the problem.

Adds disc burning support for several device-LaCie d2 DVD Multi U&I Drive and d2 CD-RW 52x24x52x, Visual Frontier COHH-B1-A48 and COSP-B1-C24, MacPower Cold Chisel 24x12x24x8x, and these BUSlink devices: FW5252FM FireWire 52x24x52x CD-RW drive, FW4848FM FireWire 48x12x48x CD-RW Drive, RW4040FM FireWire 40x12x40 CD-RW Drive.

Hmmm.... I don't see my LG/Hitachi 32X CD-RW or my Panasonic LF-D521U DVD-RAM/-R/-RW listed.

Bluetooth Setup Assistant now works with certain Microsoft keyboards and mouse devices.

Kewl. I use the Microsoft Wireless Optical Pro Keyboard and mouse though (RF wireless). Already works great - they have excellent OS X drivers ironically.

-Q- · Apr 10, 2003, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
HELLO!!!!

Did it enable the robotic arms that are hidden in the dual mirror door G4 PowerMac!!!

They are totally useless...

That's it... I'm moving to Windows

Now that's funny. Downloading now...

SteveJobs · Apr 10, 2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
Kewl. I use the Microsoft Wireless Optical Pro Keyboard and mouse though (RF wireless). Already works great - they have excellent OS X drivers ironically.

Well, yeah, MS' OS X drivers are pretty good, but what I was talking about was keyboard/mouse support with Bluetooth devices, not 2.4 Ghz RF devices, different technology, ya know?

Steve

t_hah · 02:55 PM

I am very disappointed...still does not include the worlds most advanced utility called Solitaire, or Minesweeper.

I am hoping that they will make it in 10.3.

t

ps.: and then I haven't even mentioned the missing driver and GUI support to my brand spanking new USB Powered Toothbrush.

sensorfreaky · Apr 10, 2003, 02:51 PM

No mention of video card driver updates?

NVidea driver update?

ATI driver update? (especially now that the 9700 is available for powermacs)

For example, Marine Aquarium still works much better on OS9 than it does on 10.2.5. OSX has jaggies and tearing during capture and developers swear it's an OSX Open GL issue. Another example, WC3 still runs much smoother under OS9 versus 10.2.5 despite maxxed-out RAM.

I guess some of us will have to wait for 10.3 and another $130 to get 3D graphics performance on par (hopefully) with OS9.

Eug · Apr 10, 2003, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by SteveJobs:
Well, yeah, MS' OS X drivers are pretty good, but what I was talking about was keyboard/mouse support with Bluetooth devices, not 2.4 Ghz RF devices, different technology, ya know?

Yeah, I know. I was just saying that it's kewl that the BlueTooth one is now (presumably) also supported. However, if you don't want to spend the moolah on the BlueTooth setup, the RF one works great.

nobitacu · Apr 10, 2003, 02:59 PM

I have it installed, and so far, everything is working good. Not sure if there's any differences though. But I'll try some more stuff and see if there's any speed improvements.

Ming

nobitacu · Apr 10, 2003, 03:08 PM

The battery life for mt 17 inch has improved from 2:01 to 2:25 min after installing the update.

Ming

andreas_g4 · Apr 10, 2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by sensorfreaky:
I can confirm that it feels snappier.

This snappy stuff gets boring...

korn · Apr 10, 2003, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
Ooh, P800 support!!

Yeap, but iSync doesn't... so nothing really changes...

Adam Betts · Apr 10, 2003, 03:17 PM

I can confirm that Baghdad 10.2.5 is secured. Most of the bugs surrendered.

Most people said that Kernel Saddam died and I think I can confirm this too. Any latest report on his whereabout?

k2director · Apr 10, 2003, 03:17 PM

Exactly. Nothing really changes for those with the P800, as far as I can tell.

Also, I don't have high hopes for the MS BT Mouse to work. I'd love it, but spidey sense tells me a bigger, more significant update is needed. We shall see when the end-user reports come in...

SteveJobs · Apr 10, 2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by korn:
Yeap, but iSync doesn't... so nothing really changes...

Oh damn.

arekkusu · Apr 10, 2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by sensorfreaky:
No mention of video card driver updates?

ATI driver update? (especially now that the 9700 is available for powermacs)

Dunno about nvidia or the 9700 specifically but the general Radeon driver is fixed. On my 800 Mhz TiBook, VBL sync works again, no more tearing. Hooooray!

Also they fixed my framebuffer->rectangle texture bug, so the ATI card is as fast as nvidia in this case now.

a-poria · Apr 10, 2003, 03:47 PM

update fine except for loss of kensington mouseworks preferences. guess i'll have to wait for update from them.

I WAS the One · Apr 10, 2003, 03:50 PM

Check this out! I just start a brand new thread about this update! and then I found out that all was OLD NEWS lol!!!!

sorry hahahahahahaha!

I AM A LOOSER!

Dale Sorel · Apr 10, 2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by andreas_g4:
This snappy stuff gets boring...

I think it feels a bit...you know

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Apr 10, 2003, 04:12 PM

Hey neat, I just had my first kernal panic in a YEAR after installing this update.

The Placid Casual · Apr 10, 2003, 04:21 PM

I have always been one to hit the 'Software Update' button on OS X as often as possible... Up until 10.2.4 :-/

I'm at the moment, in the middle of a dialup d/l of 10.2.3 in an attempt to get everything working again after a total reinstall to 10.2...

Excuse me if I don't update to .5 for the next week or two...

(Although at least there are no nasty surprises reported as yet...)

Peace,

Marc

TheIceMan · Apr 10, 2003, 05:01 PM

Marc2211:

I'm the same. After 10.2.4, I'll wait. Nothing earth-shattering about 10.2.5, I'm not going to die if I don't install it. At this rate, I'm holding out for 10.3. That would be an "update."

chris v · Apr 10, 2003, 05:20 PM

Guinea Pig # B/432-a reporting for duty, sir.

No problems here, sir.

CV

Patcarla · Apr 10, 2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by a-poria:
update fine except for loss of kensington mouseworks preferences. guess i'll have to wait for update from them.

My mouseworks pref are fine..Actually everything is fine except safari v71 who didn't want to launch after rebooting...

CheesePuff · Apr 10, 2003, 05:51 PM

I can confirm what the above poster said about PowerBook battery life, earlier today I got about 2:59, now with the same settings running 10.2.5 it shows 3:35.

carmine · Apr 10, 2003, 06:00 PM

god @*#()@@# software update! before, when i ran swupdate on my quicksilver (sharing an internet connection with a tibook) it said there were no updates to install. now software update "runs successfully" according to my prefpane, but there is no dialog window. do i need to restart or what?

SMacTech · Apr 10, 2003, 06:11 PM

This one makes me happy :
Addresses an issue in which the Classic environment could become unresponsive after placing a Classic application's save confirmation dialog box in the background.

Cannot tell you how many times this occurred to me. Off to actually see if they fixed it.
Everything else seems OK so far.

mikerally · Apr 10, 2003, 06:20 PM

The 10.2.5 update messed up the power management on my 12 inch Powerbook - and brought back the permanent amber light issue - I had to reset the PMU and the battery to get rid of it again (that is how I got rid of it before).

::maroma:: · Apr 10, 2003, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by sensorfreaky:
Another example, WC3 still runs much smoother under OS9 versus 10.2.5 despite maxxed-out RAM

Did you notice any improvement at all in WC3 with 10.2.5?

Gul Banana · Apr 10, 2003, 06:24 PM

AFP and SMB improvements sound nice, as does that extra battery power. Downloading = now.

megasad · Apr 10, 2003, 06:38 PM

To answer my own question from early on in this thread, you can download the 10.2.x -> 10.2.5 combo update here. I really should have thought to check VersionTracker, rather than relying on Apple's own site.

So, my modem-using, two-hour-timeout friends; let the slow crawl of downloading commence! Only 7 hours 22 minutes to go!

wulf · Apr 10, 2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by k2director:
Exactly. Nothing really changes for those with the P800, as far as I can tell.

Not much, but Address Book now seems to support the P800 Bluetooth functions (dial, SMS). Haven't actually tried it yet, as it's too late to make any of my friends' phones ring

Also Bluetooth preferences now reports more detailed system info from the P800.

Hopefully this paves the way for release of iSync 2 before Panther (with P800 support among others).

G Barnett · Apr 10, 2003, 07:40 PM

Argh. My only complaint -- which is essentially my CONSTANT complaint is that no matter what I do, be it aliases, Symlinks, you name it, Software Update ALWAYS creates a new Applications folder on the system drive. I don't WANT Applications there; I want the damn thing offloaded and I want Software Update to FIND it. BAH!

Is there ANY way to get this done, 'cause symlinks ain't working.

G Barnett