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Kenneth · Apr 13, 2003, 04:35 AM

After the AppleStore went down, I see this..

AppleWorks 6.2.7.. it is under "Apple Software" page

AppleWorks 6.2.7 (M9057Z/A) Est. shipping 7-10 days $79

Grrr · Apr 13, 2003, 05:38 AM

OOooooooooooooooo......
Maybe if you go to a real AppleStore, they might have it in a real box, just like that one.. And just maybe you will even get to touch it!!
Then you can come back here and tell us all about it.

nobitacu · Apr 13, 2003, 07:11 AM

And... what's so different about this one?

Ming

JLL · Apr 13, 2003, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by nobitacu:
And... what's so different about this one?

Ming

Old:

The new box fits in with the other Apple software boxes, and it might mean that we won't see a major AW update in a long time (or that Apple don't want AppleGaramond on any of their boxes).

dampeoples · Apr 13, 2003, 07:39 AM

But isn't 6.2.4 the most current version?

Colonel Panic · Apr 13, 2003, 07:55 AM

yes, hopefully this means an update very soon...

Xeo · Apr 13, 2003, 01:09 PM

I just want AW 7...

We need a decent word processor.

Millennium · Apr 13, 2003, 02:19 PM

I would hope that it doesn't, you know, suck. Or at least, I hope it sucks a lot less than the current version, which was the original Bad Carbon Port in its first OSX incarnation and is only marginally better now.

mark9939 · Apr 13, 2003, 05:10 PM

So, I'm confused... is there a 6.2.7 update out there? Because I can't see it @ apple.com/software under "Downloads:" or apple.com/appleworks. Ugh I want to stop using Word...

DPUser · Apr 13, 2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by mark9939:
So, I'm confused... is there a 6.2.7 update out there?

For what it's worth, Appleworks 6.2.6 was included in the most recent disk image supplied by Apple to the Maine Learning Technology Initiative for the 38,000 iBooks issued to Maine's 7th and 8th graders.
Corruption in the presentation module is addressed specifically in the update.

moonmonkey · Apr 13, 2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:
I would hope that it doesn't, you know, suck. Or at least, I hope it sucks a lot less than the current version, which was the original Bad Carbon Port in its first OSX incarnation and is only marginally better now.

It was the original carbon port, Still has loads of OS9 widgets and interface elements.

We need a totaly new app.

mitchell_pgh · Apr 13, 2003, 09:03 PM

I would love to see AppleWorks 7 be a OpenOffice port... bring the best parts of AppleWorks and OpenOffice to the table...

I just don't think it's worth Apple's time to work on a office app. all alone...

Think Safari...

Anomalous · Apr 14, 2003, 03:08 PM

I use AppleWorks 6.2.4 as my main word processor and I like it. I don't think it's bad at all.

dampeoples · Apr 14, 2003, 03:14 PM

I like the Appleworks suite as well, it does what it's supposed to do.

AJ · Apr 14, 2003, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I would love to see AppleWorks 7 be a OpenOffice port... bring the best parts of AppleWorks and OpenOffice to the table...

I just don't think it's worth Apple's time to work on a office app. all alone...

Think Safari...

That sounds like a truely horrible prosepect...

gururafiki · Apr 14, 2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I would love to see AppleWorks 7 be a OpenOffice port... bring the best parts of AppleWorks and OpenOffice to the table...

I just don't think it's worth Apple's time to work on a office app. all alone...

Think Safari...

Good point. Apple needs some way to compete with microsoft, and they are doing a good job with safari.

Simon · Apr 14, 2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I would love to see AppleWorks 7 be a OpenOffice port... bring the best parts of AppleWorks and OpenOffice to the table...

I just don't think it's worth Apple's time to work on a office app. all alone...

Think Safari...

Yep. My vote is in favor as well.

Superchicken · Apr 14, 2003, 05:08 PM

what about things like Kword and all the other Kapps?

Are any of them worth apple's time or would Open Office be a much better app to work with?

I tried OOo for the PC and it was OK... crashed and killed my paper but other than that...

I'd love to see apple bundle some sorta OS X office suite I dono why... I mean M$ does have a pretty good suite..... but it's so freaking expencive.

Simon · Apr 14, 2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Superchic[k]en:
what about things like Kword and all the other Kapps?

Are any of them worth apple's time or would Open Office be a much better app to work with?

I tried OOo for the PC and it was OK... crashed and killed my paper but other than that...

I think similar to what they did with KHTML for Safari they could just use OOo for the core routines and classes. But re-think the whole UI and maybe introduce some new concepts. I highly doubt we would be really happy if they just took OOo the way it is today and re-compiled it for native Aqua.

Kenneth · Apr 20, 2003, 08:55 PM

Apple just updated the AppleWorks site.. I guess..

Take a look of the specification
Apple - AppleWorks - Technical Specifications

Any "new" things from this version other than the fonts, clip arts, and templates.
Still Mac OS 8.1 or later... can't wait for the full cocoa AppleWorks

normyzo · Apr 20, 2003, 09:49 PM

Its theoretically possible to simply use the core routines of OOo and build off of that. In fact, there _is_ a Java version of the interface, alongside the normal C++ version of the interface.

What some people don't realize though is that it would take a bunch of work. Witness our NeoOffice project. But I suppose if either Ed or I could work on it full time it would be a lot farther along right now.

Personally, if Apple picked up OOo and tried to run with it, I think they could make a very decent office suite that would be very competitive. It would probably be a fork though, since lots of stuff would need to be changed.

Dan

stew · Apr 21, 2003, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Kenneth:
can't wait for the full cocoa AppleWorks

Why is everyone so obsessed with Cocoa apps?

dampeoples · Apr 21, 2003, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by stew:
Why is everyone so obsessed with Cocoa apps?

I dunno, I always thought cocoa stuff was slower

thesearcher · Apr 21, 2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Anomalous:
I use AppleWorks 6.2.4 as my main word processor and I like it. I don't think it's bad at all.

The M$ file translators leave a lot to be desired. They have a habit of crashing AW and whacking the file that I'm trying to save. (Maybe that's some sort of 'feature', like a Windows product...)

Adam Betts · Apr 21, 2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by stew:
Why is everyone so obsessed with Cocoa apps?

Clean, simple, no bloat, support all major MacOS X features such as real toolbar, slide-in window with transparency, etc etc.

Cocoa easily look better and code is way smaller/simple therefore we will get more features than bug fixes

gururafiki · Apr 22, 2003, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by stew:
Why is everyone so obsessed with Cocoa apps?

'cause its quaity!

Developer · Apr 22, 2003, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by gururafiki:
'cause its quaity!

I guess you especially appreciate the system wide spell checker in Cocoa apps.