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NPR drops Quicktime support
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Apr 17, 2003, 11:49 PM
 
http://apple.slashdot.org/

At least they still offer RealOne streams.

I thought NPR was liberal in its politics. If so, you'd think they would want to support the underdog rather than kneel and blow Bill Gates and his monopoly.

Quicktime content is getting harder and harder to find on the 'net. What should Apple do to counter this?
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 12:02 AM
 
We regret that we were unable to reach mutually acceptable terms for a new arrangement with Apple QuickTime. As a result, NPR is unable to continue offering its content in this format.
I thought QuickTime Streamin Server is free!?
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Apr 18, 2003, 12:03 AM
 
It looking like QuickTime needs a bit of rethink.

It's great for viewing short films (like movie trailers) and for content creation, but it just doesn't seem to be able to present a convincing case for creators of streaming media.

What does a QuickTime offer over a RealOne or WinMedia stream?
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 12:05 AM
 
userbase.

wmp has it.
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 12:32 PM
 
Originally posted by lookmark:
It looking like QuickTime needs a bit of rethink.

It's great for viewing short films (like movie trailers) and for content creation, but it just doesn't seem to be able to present a convincing case for creators of streaming media.

What does a QuickTime offer over a RealOne or WinMedia stream?
It's free. Why that hasn't helped it is beyond me.
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 12:50 PM
 
perhaps disdain towards Apple? Of all the PC users I know, and when I was one, I never used QT, always real or wmp
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Apr 18, 2003, 02:32 PM
 
Quicktime was dropped because NPR couldn't extort more money out of Apple in order to keep the broadcasts going. NPR trades in community goodwill points. If you want to be seen as a sponsor of the community, you'll give NPR cash. NPR uses this leverage as goodwill advertisers to grab more and more money from their sponsors. If you don't give them more money you lose your community goodwill points.

NPR pulled the plug because Apple wouldn't fork over more money to keep the stream alive.

Several folks have e-mailed NPR regarding technical concerns, one such e-mail was posted in the Slashdot thread. NPR didn't drop Quicktime for technical reasons nor would they need to. Quicktime's biggest advantage over WMP and Real is the fact you can freely download both QT Broadcaster and Streaming Server for use.
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 03:23 PM
 
i emailed npr about this earlier this week and they responded by saying that apple failed to re-new the licensing agreement. now that i know the LICENSING AGREEMENT is/was FREE i see the dirty games npr plays. i'll remember that when they beg for money.
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 03:43 PM
 
Originally posted by nope:
i emailed npr about this earlier this week and they responded by saying that apple failed to re-new the licensing agreement. now that i know the LICENSING AGREEMENT is/was FREE i see the dirty games npr plays. i'll remember that when they beg for money.

There is no charge, but there's still an agreement that must be reached in order to use the software. The fact that the agreement is free doesn't mean it MUST be renewed.


The reason QuickTime never succeeded in the PC world is because the software was intrusive (ranked 2nd behind RealPlayer as "most intrusive software" in 2000, 2001, and was finally surpassed by Gator - aka GAIN in 2002).

Lots of advertisements, the inability to properly uninstall the IE-integration plugin, and other headaches - and all for no obvious benefit over WMP - means that there is no compelling reason for PC users to want QuickTime.

On a Mac, Quicktime is far more tolerable. Perhaps this is basis for the confusion. QuickTime for Mac and QuickTime for Win32 are two entirley different animals.
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 04:16 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
The reason QuickTime never succeeded in the PC world is because the software was intrusive (ranked 2nd behind RealPlayer as "most intrusive software" in 2000, 2001, and was finally surpassed by Gator - aka GAIN in 2002).

Lots of advertisements, the inability to properly uninstall the IE-integration plugin, and other headaches - and all for no obvious benefit over WMP - means that there is no compelling reason for PC users to want QuickTime.
And it's performance on a PC is not unlike Windows Media Player's performance on a Mac... eg slow, unstable, etc
     
   
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