[Coller]

In what format does Jaguar burn cd's? Is it ISO 9660? My point is do I need Toast or other burning software when I'm burning mainly documents?

[DeathMan]

I've been burning from the finder, and haven't had any trouble with it. Though I haven't had extensive cross-platform compatibility needs either.

What are you wanting to do with these documents?

[Coller]

I burn documents to customers cd's, they tend to have pc's. So the burn should be "bulletproof"

[videian28]

hmm, I thought I read somewhere that printing from the finder made them unreadable by wintel machines...

hopefully I am wrong

[dettociao]

I've had problems reading discs burned in Finder on PCs. I now use Toast for this purpose.

[Sarah31]

if you are not adverse to using your terminal you could download and compile cdrtools or install fink and install cdrecord and mkisofs.

it takes a bit to get used to but once you do it is a quick and painless means of burning. since you are not burning anything more than documents (data) toast is way more than you need.

if you have any questions on how to use cdrecord and mkisofs or compile them just pm me or email me and i will help you out.

oh and did i mention that cdrtools is open source so you only pay for it if you want to support the project. you are under no obligation to do so though.

[t_hah]

Since we are at CD Burning I thought that I would ask...why is CD Burning taking up so much CPU power? I have a PowerBook G4 800, and when I burn CDs on it, the CPU usage goies us pretty high. Not, max, but pretty close.

Are you all having this happening? Is this normal?

Just a thought....

Thanks,


t

[DeathMan]

when you burn a cd, basically , your computer is gathering data from the hard drive, and writing it to the cd. So if you're burning a big cd, and you don't have a lot of ram available, you get a lot of i/o (hard drive access) going on, that could use a lot of cpu cycles. Especially if you try to burn at a maximum speed or something.

I think in general cd burning is fairly processor intensive. On my friend's windows 2000 computer, if he's burning a cd, he won't multitask, because he'll get errors if he puts too much strain on the cpu. I haven't had this problem, but I don't burn many cds.

[dampeoples]

Originally posted by t_hah:
Since we are at CD Burning I thought that I would ask...why is CD Burning taking up so much CPU power? I have a PowerBook G4 800, and when I burn CDs on it, the CPU usage goies us pretty high. Not, max, but pretty close.

Are you all having this happening? Is this normal?

Just a thought....

Thanks,


t

i have to pretty much stop, or limit use to just surfing or something on my G3 700MHz.

[tooki]

Jaguar burns hybrid (ISO9660/HFS) CDs. Yes, early revisions of Jaguar had problems with the ISO9660 filesystem, but that was fixed in 10.2.3 or 10.2.4.

That said, Toast burns faster anyway, so if you have it, it's reliable and fast.

tooki

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by tooki:

That said, Toast burns faster anyway, so if you have it, it's reliable and fast.

Toast is not without problems when burning hybrid CDs. I can tell you of many problems, going back to v2. It is certainly much faster than the Finder and I use it frequently.
Toast was a real bear before ' burn proof' technology became available. The Finder's albeit slower method, tries to overcome this problem by creating a local disk image to burn from, making it faster than reading from optical or network source files.
When in doubt, if you have the time, always burn slowly.

[ckohler]

Originally posted by tooki:
Yes, early revisions of Jaguar had problems with the ISO9660 filesystem, but that was fixed in 10.2.3 or 10.2.4.

I was wondering if Apple had fixed that yet. I assume you're referring to the issue where CDs burnt from the Finder that contained files within folders would not be readable from a PC?

[Sarah31]

mkisofs -v -J -r -V "DiskNamehere" -o outputfilename.iso <filenameordirectorywithfiles>

cdrecord -v speed=whateverspeed dev=IODVDServices(or dev=IOCDROMServies) driveropts=burnfree -data /path/to/file.iso

should get you a nice hybrid cd in about 15-20 mins or much less (very dependent on your speed) with mkisofs and cdrecord from cdrtools.

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by ckohler:
I was wondering if Apple had fixed that yet. I assume you're referring to the issue where CDs burnt from the Finder that contained files within folders would not be readable from a PC?

Yes it was fixed in the next release, 10.2.4, I think.

[:haripu:]

Speaking of CD burning. A new version of FireStarter FX just came out and it now has the ability to burn data CDs too. I like that little app, as it is free (well, donationware) and is an alternative to Toast and Finder burning, when you don't need all the functionality of the first, but want more control than you have over the second.


But does anybody know, what format it uses for these Data CDs? I can't seem to find it documented anywhere.

[Sarah31]

likely it is using mkisofs and cdrecord. for mkisofs it is pretty standard to use the options -J and -r. J is for joliet which is the format Windows uses. r is for Rockridge which linux uses. images made in this format can be read in Linux, Mac, and Windows.

I order for a cd to be properly burned with cdrecord it requires an iso iaqmge to be made. since this seems to be what this app is doing i would assume cdrecord and mkisofs are the core applications. likely some of the other tools that are packages in the cdrecord package (cdrtools) are included as well such as cdda2wav.

[sushiism]

i only use finder (10.2.3) and i use my burned cds on pcs and macs all the time alike and i have never run into a single problem, it burns perfect cross playform cds