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Gummi Bear · Apr 29, 2003, 09:21 PM

I found this on the Apple iPod webpage when searching for information on the iPod Dock.

"Just plug, unplug, and go. The iPod Dock makes charging and syncing easier than ever. A convenient and elegant home base for iPod on a desk or connected to a home stereo system, the dock provides syncing via FireWire or USB 2.0*, charging via FireWire and a stereo line out for simple connection to power speakers or a stereo system.

* USB 2.0 requires Internet download available in June. "

USB 2.0 available in JUNE

Oh yeah!

dettociao · Apr 29, 2003, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Gummi Bear:
I found this on the Apple iPod webpage when searching for information on the iPod Dock.

"Just plug, unplug, and go. The iPod Dock makes charging and syncing easier than ever. A convenient and elegant home base for iPod on a desk or connected to a home stereo system, the dock provides syncing via FireWire or USB 2.0*, charging via FireWire and a stereo line out for simple connection to power speakers or a stereo system.

* USB 2.0 requires Internet download available in June. "

USB 2.0 available in JUNE

Oh yeah!

Uhmmm.... I think this means a firmware update for the iPod. Stop me if I'm wrong?

dtriska · Apr 29, 2003, 09:27 PM

From the iPod tech specs page: "USB 2.0 connection is for Windows PCs only; requires USB 2.0 + FireWire Cable and free software update (available in June)."

dettociao · Apr 29, 2003, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by dtriska:
From the iPod tech specs page: "USB 2.0 connection is for Windows PCs only; requires USB 2.0 + FireWire Cable and free software update (available in June)."

Thought so.

I Bent My Wookiee · Apr 29, 2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by dtriska:
From the iPod tech specs page: "USB 2.0 connection is for Windows PCs only; requires USB 2.0 + FireWire Cable and free software update (available in June)."

What he said.

OptimusG4 · Apr 30, 2003, 12:10 AM

Wow, amazing what reading does these days.

DaedalusDX · Apr 30, 2003, 03:43 AM

Yawn. I say what I've always said about USB 2.0 on a mac... its nothing to get excited about.

For the iPod especially, it makes more sense to plug it in using Firewire since it can't charge over the USB 2.0 connection...

For PC users its a good thing. I'm happy for those poor suckers.

Gummi Bear · Apr 30, 2003, 06:52 AM

you just wait until Apple announces the USB 2.0 drivers for the MAC. And when your new iPod is supporting USB 2.0, you'll remember this post.

USB 2.0 isn't only for PC
It's coming our way!

It's built right into my machine already.
1.42ghz has it 'secretly' built in

OptimusG4 · Apr 30, 2003, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Gummi Bear:
you just wait until Apple announces the USB 2.0 drivers for the MAC. And when your new iPod is supporting USB 2.0, you'll remember this post.

USB 2.0 isn't only for PC
It's coming our way!

It's built right into my machine already.
1.42ghz has it 'secretly' built in

Its already here...via PCI cards, no need to wait for Apple to support them even! Wow! Astonishment!

Moose · Apr 30, 2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Gummi Bear:
you just wait until Apple announces the USB 2.0 drivers for the MAC. And when your new iPod is supporting USB 2.0, you'll remember this post.

USB 2.0 isn't only for PC
It's coming our way!

It's built right into my machine already.
1.42ghz has it 'secretly' built in

I think your parents have too much money. But hey, it's their money, and you're their SPECIAL LITTLE GUY.

Let's state the facts:

1) USB 2.0 support, out of the box, on Apple's computers and in Mac OS X is inevitable. The chipsets are in some machines already, there's an increasing amount of hardware for it, and it's faster than USB 1.1.

2) USB 2.0, despite the fact that claims a theoretical max of 480Mbps, is still, in practice, slower than FireWire 400.

3) The iPod already supports FireWire. USB 2.0 support on the iPod is purely for Windows users, who are not terribly likely to have PCs that support FireWire, and to whom installing a PCI card would be anathema. This is because (get this) most people don't want to have to put cards in their computers to get it to do things. If the only way Apple can push further adoption of the Windows iPod is to make it support USB 2.0, that's what they'll do. And that's what they will have done. In June. This isn't for us at all. If you were to start using USB 2 instead of FireWire for your iPod, you'd be retarded.

Now. Let's make the quite possibly fallacious assumption that you are correct, and that Mac OS X will get native, Apple-written USB 2.0 drivers in June. I'd think that they'd hold off until Panther, but, hey, stranger things have happened, and we've all lived to tell the tale.

Nothing Apple wrote about the new iPod indicates that Mac OS X will support USB 2 natively in June. You're talking out of your ass.

And when your new iPod is supporting USB 2.0, you'll remember this post.

JUST YOU WAIT!)@(#*&!)@(*#

Yes. I'll remember it because you're an idiot now, and you'll still be an idiot then, but you'll have guessed something correctly. Keep guessing, and it's bound to happen. Even Meader still gets things "right" occasionally. Some people will still, somehow, think Meader's a genius if Apple ever ships four-processor PowerMacs, because they will forget that he's been predicting it for "next year" (incorrectly, in case you haven't noticed) since at least 1999.

This is what your post is. Pure speculation. It has all the crediblity of a guy walking down the street with a sandwich board on proclaiming that THE END IS IMMINENT. The end of the world will happen. So will native USB 2 support in Mac OS X. But will it happen on the timetable that you and your disheveled friend specify?

Only time will tell. But don't pretend you know, or are in any way more clever than we are. Because you don't, and you aren't.

leperkuhn · Apr 30, 2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Moose:

JUST YOU WAIT!)@(#*&!)@(*#

Yes. I'll remember it because you're an idiot now, and you'll still be an idiot then, but you'll have guessed something correctly. Keep guessing, and it's bound to happen. Even Meader still gets things "right" occasionally. Some people will still, somehow, think Meader's a genius if Apple ever ships four-processor PowerMacs, because they will forget that he's been predicting it for "next year" (incorrectly, in case you haven't noticed) since at least 1999.

This is what your post is. Pure speculation. It has all the crediblity of a guy walking down the street with a sandwich board on proclaiming that THE END IS IMMINENT. The end of the world will happen. So will native USB 2 support in Mac OS X. But will it happen on the timetable that you and your disheveled friend specify?

Only time will tell. But don't pretend you know, or are in any way more clever than we are. Because you don't, and you aren't.

Those guys can accurately tell you nine times out of ten what color underwear you are wearing.

Moose · Apr 30, 2003, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by leperkuhn:
Those guys can accurately tell you nine times out of ten what color underwear you are wearing.

Only because when they see somebody who looks like a geek, they can guess "brown" and generally be at least partially correct.

malbicho · Apr 30, 2003, 12:37 PM

probably no one noticed, i already wrote about this in the powermac forum. well, once again: it seems that usb2 controllers are ALREADY in last shipped powermacs. do not know what models precisely.
just give a look to www.penguinppc.org or www.ppcnerds.org

it seems that at the moment it is the open firmware putting them in the usb1 mode only