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jnicholas · May 12, 2003, 08:59 AM

I often mount a drive through an appletalk network at home. Sometimes I'll get to work the next day and when I wake the computer up I see my drive from home is still on the desktop. If I try to eject it, I get the spinning beach ball for several minutes and i can't do anything in the finder or launch new apps. Finally it will come back and drop the icon.

Is there anyway to eject the disk without the finder getting lost for a while? Shouldn't it just automatically drop network drives that aren't there anymore?

Cipher13 · May 12, 2003, 09:10 AM

The Finder is a piece of crap. That's the best answer I can provide here.

When the machine sleeps, the network connection is severred - the connection to the remote machine is lost. The Finder chucks a temper tantrum when it realises.

-Q- · May 12, 2003, 09:20 AM

Cipher's 100% correct. And unfortunately, there's no solution to the problem other than trying to remember to disconnect all mounted drives before sleeping.

Every time a new update comes out, I hope they've fixed this...and they never do.

Macola · May 12, 2003, 09:32 AM

This problem is really annoying, especially in a small office setting...I administer a network with a bunch of MDD 867s and a Win2K server. My only solution was to set all the Macs to never sleep, which is hardly ideal.

snerdini · May 12, 2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Macola:
This problem is really annoying, especially in a small office setting...I administer a network with a bunch of MDD 867s and a Win2K server. My only solution was to set all the Macs to never sleep, which is hardly ideal.

I had this problem at work as well, and basically had to use the same solution. I think this calls for a

GENERAL_SMILEY · May 12, 2003, 12:09 PM

This problem is almost comically bad, it is the one area PC users can legitimately laugh at Macs.

Be prepared for all sorts of problems, including the odd kernel panic, when building networks - especially cross platform stuff.

Spheric Harlot · May 12, 2003, 02:49 PM

Yes, yes...Airport is so much less cool if it means your computer freezes up for five minutes when you take it anywhere.

kennethmac2000 · May 12, 2003, 02:55 PM

It is things like this that just make me so angry about Apple's "It looks good. Ship it." QA policy of late.

symonsl · May 12, 2003, 02:56 PM

10.2.6 seems to be much less annoying about this. It just tells you you've lost the connection, without stalling the whole finder. However, this still usually results in all sorts of disk problems when I fsck.

GENERAL_SMILEY · May 12, 2003, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Yes, yes...Airport is so much less cool if it means your computer freezes up for five minutes when you take it anywhere.

Having said all that I'm using Airport Extreme right now with my 17 AL laptop, it wakes and logs on in seconds to the internet connection, and to the Win2k server (DAVE, natch) - the only thing which behaves badly is the Appletalk connection.

Still I have a G3 which will happily crash the network if it runs across a corrupt file - and crash itself if it loses network connection for even a second.

Remember to cut all your connected servers before sleeping and your basically fine with a fast new Mac.

Macola · May 13, 2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by GENERAL_SMILEY:

Remember to cut all your connected servers before sleeping and your basically fine with a fast new Mac.

Good advice, but totally impractical in a typical office environment. How many users do you know who will do this before walking away from their desk to take an extended lunch?

Besides, then they have to figure out how to reconnect to the server volumes when they return. So they go click on the big blue network icon and...nothing happens!

"But that's what I do on my PC..."

schwantz · Aug 18, 2003, 05:01 PM

This bug drives me CRAZY. Has anyone seen whether or not this is still around in Panther?

See this Apple thread as well:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/We...bJ.4@.3bc1b269

SMacTech · Aug 18, 2003, 08:36 PM

I am going to try this tomorrow with Panther and a Windows 2k server.
I will try it in about an hour using an AFP connection. My pismo's CD drive takes forever to install the 3 cds of Panther.
I will setup a share on OS X server, mount it and put the pismo to sleep. To torture even more I will pull the ethernet.

iNub · Aug 18, 2003, 09:47 PM

It'd be cool if Apple made an "OnSleep" and "OnWake" actions folder, much like the Login Items pref pane thing. Then you could whip together an AppleScript or shell script to mount/unmount network volumes.

SMacTech · Aug 19, 2003, 06:26 AM

So far the problem appears to be fixed, at least with connections to an AFP server. Placing the laptop to sleep with a share mounted, and then waking it back up, the share still appears and can be accessed.

schwantz · Aug 19, 2003, 12:00 PM

The problem occurs when you put the machine to sleep, and REMOVE the share. If you could try that, it would be awesome.

Macola · Aug 20, 2003, 11:07 AM

Also, please, please, please, try it with an SMB server and let us know.

SMacTech · Aug 20, 2003, 12:33 PM

I would test it with SMB but I cannot get it to mount my Linux box that I am able to access from Jag.

SMacTech · Aug 20, 2003, 01:03 PM

Damned network admin was rebooting server while I was trying to connect.

The verdict is this : it WORKS the way it should.
I mounted the SMB share and I have put the computer to sleep, wake it up, it reconnects. Pulled the cable, it alerts you that it lost connection and gives you a dialog to try and reconnect or disconnect. I put it to sleep, pulled ethernet cable, woke it up, it alerts you that it lost connection.
Life is getting better !

Macola · Aug 20, 2003, 04:08 PM