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hi all!
My first message here,...
I have in my basement (shame on me but our flat is far to small!!!) my good old power 8600 250MHZ and something like a 4 Gigs HD and around 300 Megs of RAM.
First: can I run OS X server on this machine?
Second: how easy is it to use? (remember, I m in the mac world since day one, but I know sh*t about servers)
The reason why I would like to have my own is to be able to control my stuff (websites and emails).
So?...
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Yes, you can run X on it, but it won't be fast, as it eats RAM and CPU for breakfast. It will sure love you old graphics card.
How about Darwin (roughly OS X - Aqua, Cocoa, etc.)?
Keep in mind that the Unix learning curve is steep, very steep indeed. I am learning it the hard way right now ...
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Originally posted by zubro:
hi all!
My first message here,...
I have in my basement (shame on me but our flat is far to small!!!) my good old power 8600 250MHZ and something like a 4 Gigs HD and around 300 Megs of RAM.
First: can I run OS X server on this machine?
Second: how easy is it to use? (remember, I m in the mac world since day one, but I know sh*t about servers)
Welcome! 
OS X Server would be too much for that machine. But how well does it run OS X? Maybe use the gui to setup, then go CLI? Hrrmmm. The other option would be to use a PPC Linux, or straight Darwin. I think I'd see how it does w/ OS X first though. Linux can be nasty.
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Originally posted by Angus_D:
Linux is your best bet.
Agreed.
Why do you want OSX Server? Do you realise how expensive it is?
OSX client is probably MORE than enough for what seems like a simple home network... same with Linux.
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Thanks guyz!
i do understand now that i will depend FOREVER of some neards friends of mine to host my sites and manage my emails... I do not plan to learn any language or Linux or else! I am and will stay a u.s.e.r!
Too bad! so my tower is going to stay into my basement... I will place it somewhere in my office when I will have one in my "superbe villa" on the sea side in Corsica...
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Originally posted by OreoCookie:
Yes, you can run X on it,
Not on a 4GB disk you can't.
You need WAY more space than that.
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Originally posted by zubro:
Thanks guyz!
i do understand now that i will depend FOREVER of some neards friends of mine to host my sites and manage my emails... I do not plan to learn any language or Linux or else! I am and will stay a u.s.e.r!
Too bad! so my tower is going to stay into my basement... I will place it somewhere in my office when I will have one in my "superbe villa" on the sea side in Corsica...
Dont thank the guys 'cause they have fed you a load of BS. I use an 8500/120 with the following upgrades: Sonnet 450/G3, OWC ram [$25/128 meg from OWC, and an extra 9 gig scsi drive. You certainly DO NOT NEED OSX server. The client version works fine. It takes very little disk space to host a web site and Tenon's Post.Office is FREE as an email server if you have less than ten email addresses on it. I use my 8500 as a web[builtin Apache]/print[OSX builtin]/file[ditto] and mail[post.office] server and it works flawlessly. There is very little processing load on a home server and the builtin 10baseT on the 8500 is more than adaguate for your purposes.Get a couple of the O'Reilly books or go to google and get their tutorials on home web/mail servers. Go to it.
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Before the upgrade I used a PowerTower Pro 225 604 running 10.1 Server and it ran great! Web, eMail, File Serving. Its was perfect. And don't worry about the slow speed, as long as you have the 128 MB min of ram, you'll be set. You don't need a fast processor or a powerfull graphics card if your never going to touch the computer. Aqua only uses CPU when its doing stuff. I upgraded my tower to a G3 so I could run 10.2 Server, and it run at 5% CPU usage with jsut a few spikes from running MySQL server stats. Thats a 400 MHz G3. Youre computer will make a sweet server. And 4GB is MORE than enough for a web/mail server. You can get an IDE PCI card and a big drive if you wanna keep more files on there, like movies and stuff. You need to get a program call XPostFacto to install OS X on that machine though.
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