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Lew · May 21, 2003, 05:15 AM

For some reason the 'Connect to Server' dialog no longer lists any servers in the left-hand pane. It used to show both my WinXP boxes but now it searches and then leaves the pane completely empty. I can still manually connect to servers but it's nice to be able to browse a list.

Anyone know of a fix for this? I'm running 10.2.6

pat++ · May 21, 2003, 05:30 AM

Make sure the workgroup name is the same on the XP box and on your Mac.

(You can change the workgroup name with "Directory Access" in the Utilities folder, you'll need to configure the smb directory).

Lew · May 21, 2003, 05:47 AM

That was the first thing I checked. All the computers are set to the workgroup 'WORKGROUP'. The XP boxes can all see each other and can also see the SMB shares from the Mac, but the Mac can't browse a list of the XP boxes. I've had this problem ever since 10.2 came out, it'd work fine for a while after a fresh install but then all of a sudden it'd stop showing other computers in the browse list.

SubGeniux · May 21, 2003, 06:38 AM

Are you using DHCP? You might want to get X to lease a new DHCP address, you could do it through the terminal or use cocktail.

throught the terminal, type: "sudo ifconfig en0 down" to release your IP and then "sudo ifconfig en0 up" to grab a new one.

hope it helps

Lew · May 21, 2003, 07:22 AM

Using static IP addresses for both the Ethernet and AirPort. Same on the XP boxes (10.0.x.x for AirPort and 192.168.x.x for Ethernet)

aaanorton · May 21, 2003, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by GFive:
Using static IP addresses for both the Ethernet and AirPort. Same on the XP boxes (10.0.x.x for AirPort and 192.168.x.x for Ethernet)

There's your problem, you're spanned across 2 subnets. Put everything on 1. If you're not using DHCP, you'll need to change the IP of either the ethernet machines and associated router (if there is one) or the ABS and client(s). Everything should be x.x.x.(a, b, c...).

Lew · May 21, 2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
There's your problem, you're spanned across 2 subnets. Put everything on 1. If you're not using DHCP, you'll need to change the IP of either the ethernet machines and associated router (if there is one) or the ABS and client(s). Everything should be x.x.x.(a, b, c...).

Nope. That has made no difference whatsoever. I have all the machines on 10.0.x.x IP addresses and it's still the same. Also, it used to work just fine with the ethernet and AirPort on different IP ranges.

aaanorton · May 21, 2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by GFive:
I have all the machines on 10.0.x.x IP addresses and it's still the same. Also, it used to work just fine with the ethernet and AirPort on different IP ranges.

So, are your IP's x.x.x.(a, b, c) or x.x.y.(a, b, c)? If not already, make them like the 1st option. Try restarting the PCs after the change. Restart all routers and ABS.

Anand · May 21, 2003, 10:45 AM

Try deleting your recent server prefs and try again. Apple's (OS X and 9 for that matter) network capability sucks. If they are going to improve anything in panther, it should be this.

Lew · May 21, 2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
So, are your IP's x.x.x.(a, b, c) or x.x.y.(a, b, c)?

Sorry. In English, please

Lew · May 21, 2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Anand:
Try deleting your recent server prefs and try again. Apple's (OS X and 9 for that matter) network capability sucks. If they are going to improve anything in panther, it should be this.

Do you know which file this would be? The only prefs file I can find named anything like this seems to belong to MS' RDC

Anand · May 21, 2003, 03:32 PM

In your home folder, in the library folder, there is a folder called recent servers, delete all the files in that folder and than try to conect to servers again.

aaanorton · May 21, 2003, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by GFive:
Sorry. In English, please

OK, sorry, that was lame. I regretted my abbreviations later...
Anyway, you want all but the last group to be the same. You said " I have all the machines on 10.0.x.x IP addresses and it's still the same". They should all be 10.0.1.x or 10.0.0.x. Anything really, but the same til the last set. And remember to restart everything after changing this.

Brass · May 21, 2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
OK, sorry, that was lame. I regretted my abbreviations later...
Anyway, you want all but the last group to be the same. You said " I have all the machines on 10.0.x.x IP addresses and it's still the same". They should all be 10.0.1.x or 10.0.0.x. Anything really, but the same til the last set. And remember to restart everything after changing this.

That's correct, Mac OS X can only browse the local class C subnet for SMB servers.

BTW, the Mac certainly won't need a restart after changing network settings. That was only the public beta that had that limitation (or perhaps before 10.0.1). I think even Windows is getting better in this area, but you never can tell with Windows.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Anand:
In your home folder, in the library folder, there is a folder called recent servers, delete all the files in that folder and than try to conect to servers again.

Can't find that folder in either ~/Library or /Library.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
OK, sorry, that was lame. I regretted my abbreviations later...
Anyway, you want all but the last group to be the same. You said " I have all the machines on 10.0.x.x IP addresses and it's still the same". They should all be 10.0.1.x or 10.0.0.x. Anything really, but the same til the last set. And remember to restart everything after changing this.

Ah, thanks

They're all on 10.0.1.x IP addresses

Lew · May 22, 2003, 03:35 AM

This is how the Connect to Server dialog currently looks, btw

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by GFive:
They're all on 10.0.1.x IP addresses

So, the ABS is probably 10.0.1.1. What are the PCs connected to? A router perhaps? I know you've assigned IPs in the same range to the PCs, but what is the IP of that router? Put that on the same subnet too.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
So, the ABS is probably 10.0.1.1. What are the PCs connected to? A router perhaps? I know you've assigned IPs in the same range to the PCs, but what is the IP of that router? Put that on the same subnet too.

The PCs are also connected to the ABS. They're using Netgear MA101 USB 802.11b adapters. And yes, the ABS is 10.0.1.1

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by GFive:
The PCs are also connected to the ABS. They're using Netgear MA101 USB 802.11b adapters. And yes, the ABS is 10.0.1.1

What are the IPs of the MA101's? Put them in that range.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 12:11 PM

All of the wireless adapters are already on 10.0.1.x IP addresses. Like I said, they used to show up but at some (seemingly) random point they just stopped showing up

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 12:37 PM

Then I'm a little confused. Which devices were/are on the 192.168.x.x subnet? Maybe you should describe your whole LAN. Try it like this:
cable/DSL modem > ABS > wireless: iBook, PC1, PC2; wired: ethernet switch/hub > wired PC3

Follow? Make sure you list all the LAN devices.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 12:45 PM

OK. All the computers have wireless adapters on 10.0.1.x IPs and ethernet ports also on 10.0.1.x IPs (currently not connected to anything).

Cable Modem -> ABS -> Wireless: PowerBook, PC1, PC2

That's literally all there is. The only time the ethernet ports are used is when I have a large file to transfer (they're all 100Mbps).

The Windows XP machines can see each other and the PowerBook. I can ping both of the PCs from the PowerBook and can mount shares if I manually enter the IP address or the entries in /etc/hosts.

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 01:17 PM

OK, here's what I would do... Run a CAT5 cable from the ABS' LAN port (you do have the cable modem going to the WAN port, right?) directly to one of the PC's. Set it to get an IP via DHCP. Try to see it from the Mac. If you can, assign the PC an IP and try again. If those both work, then the problem is with those adaptors. Can you change the IP's on those easily? Are they befinitely both different IP's?

Lew · May 22, 2003, 01:29 PM

It's a Graphite ABS so it only has the one Ethernet port, which is connected to the CM. I get the same problem if I connect via Ethernet, btw.

Oh, and thanks for your time

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by GFive:
It's a Graphite ABS so it only has the one Ethernet port, which is connected to the CM. I get the same problem if I connect via Ethernet, btw.

Oh, and thanks for your time

Well, that's not as good... but you can still try it. You obviously won't have internet service, but you'll be able to see if the Mac can see the PC. Worth a shot. You have to test it through the ABS, though, so don't go straight from PC to Mac.

absmiths · May 22, 2003, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Anand:
Try deleting your recent server prefs and try again. Apple's (OS X and 9 for that matter) network capability sucks. If they are going to improve anything in panther, it should be this.

Well, that's not been my experience (as an author of network software). The Finder has problems, but the OS X subsystem has a very solid netorking infrastructure.

Lew · May 22, 2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
Well, that's not as good... but you can still try it. You obviously won't have internet service, but you'll be able to see if the Mac can see the PC. Worth a shot. You have to test it through the ABS, though, so don't go straight from PC to Mac.

OK, I'll give that a go. I also get the same problem if I connect via ethernet to a computer with no wireless adapter, so I don't think the problem is with the USB adapters.

aaanorton · May 22, 2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by GFive:
OK, I'll give that a go. I also get the same problem if I connect via ethernet to a computer with no wireless adapter, so I don't think the problem is with the USB adapters.

Going computer to computer would most likely require a crossover cable, unless their NICs are auto-sensing like current Macs.

Lew · May 23, 2003, 03:24 AM

It's a PowerBook G3 (FireWire) so no auto-sensing ethernet port. I use a crossover cable