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TheGreatButcher · May 30, 2003, 01:17 AM

Mac OS 9 Energy Saver had an option for automatic startup and shutdown. How do I do this in OS X?

Powaqqatsi · May 30, 2003, 02:00 AM

You can't, you can only auto-shutdown IIRC but not automatic booting.

TheGreatButcher · May 30, 2003, 02:04 AM

that is BS - there is still a "Restart Automatically After Power Failure" option

sandsl · May 30, 2003, 07:50 AM

Actually theres a shareware application called iBeeZz that lets you schedule startups, shutdowns, restarts and sleeps. Its 10 Euros and works very well.

http://ibeezz.reboute.net

This app doesn't seem to be very well known for some reason.

Powaqqatsi · May 30, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by TheGreatButcher:
that is BS - there is still a "Restart Automatically After Power Failure" option

I'm sorry I said something.

."Restart Automatically After Power Failure" you said it.. RESTART not automatic booting when shut down.

PS: I didn't know about the app sandsl mentioned here. It looks nice.

eevyl · May 30, 2003, 09:25 AM

If you only need to be able to schedule a shutdown, restart or log out you can use Kudown, it is free.

starman · May 30, 2003, 09:53 AM

I'm currently working on an app to do this. It's working perfectly now with everything hard-coded. In fact, my PM DP500 just booted on its own

. As soon as I get the GUI taken care of I'll release it.

Mike

sandsl · May 30, 2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by starman:
I'm currently working on an app to do this. It's working perfectly now with everything hard-coded. In fact, my PM DP500 just booted on its own . As soon as I get the GUI taken care of I'll release it.

It better be free (or less than 10 Euros) because we already have a great app (iBeeZz) which works perfectly

starman · May 30, 2003, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by sandsl:
It better be free (or less than 10 Euros) because we already have a great app (iBeeZz) which works perfectly

I don't force people to pay for stuff I write. I already have a real job

. I'd have to write the Next Big Thing for be to even consider shareware fees. Not that there won't be a link to PayPal

.

Mike

sandsl · May 30, 2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by starman:
I don't force people to pay for stuff I write. I already have a real job . I'd have to write the Next Big Thing for be to even consider shareware fees. Not that there won't be a link to PayPal .

Mike

Thats excellent then cus' my trail period of iBeeZz just run out

TheDisaster · May 30, 2003, 09:36 PM

I have heard from 3 different places that the fees for iBeezz are not worth it because this feature will be in Panther. I hope it's true, because I didn't plan on keeping iBeezz after my trial period is up in about a week.

starman · May 30, 2003, 09:48 PM

They're putting it in Panther? It's about time.

I have the core done (so easy) but I've never written a Cocoa app before. I can write Carbon, C, C++, and MFC with my eyes closed but this book I have for Cocoa just blows. Time to go to B&N.

Mike

Uncle Skeleton · May 30, 2003, 10:11 PM

so why not write it in carbon?

PS I'd like a free app for this too. If you're willing to share what you have I could whip up a cocoa gui for you right quick

nsorscher a t attbi d o t com

starman · May 31, 2003, 12:34 PM

Skel,
I appreciate that, but I have to do this on my own. It's how I am

. That's how I got past loops in BASIC in high school, data types in Pascal, pointers in C, frameworks in C++. Now I have to tackle Carbon. I'm close...VERY close. What throws me off is how in frameworks you subclass everything and in Carbon you don't, so I'm still in this MacApp/MFC mindset of how object oriented programming is done. So far I understand actions and outlets and a lot of the NS classes, but I'm hoping that by the end of the weekend I'll get past this. Why not Carbon? I need a challenge

.

Mike

Ghoser777 · May 31, 2003, 03:12 PM

To make yourself the savior of many programmers (like myself) you should make it a framework that developers can build against - Alarm Clock S.E. could really use this functionality (shamless plug). Or just reslease the code and you'll make me happy

I think IBeeZz only works on some machines and not others. It would have been a lot easier for apple to add this functionality from the beginning...

Matt Fahrenbacher

theory · May 31, 2003, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by starman:
I don't force people to pay for stuff I write. I already have a real job . I'd have to write the Next Big Thing for be to even consider shareware fees. Not that there won't be a link to PayPal .

Mike

Have you considered makeing it open source
many people (like me

) can learn from it.

starman · 11:11 PM

Update: I can now properly set the time for startup, but there are more complicated issues. In order to start up, you don't set "Every Monday at 7am", you tell the system how many SECONDS until the NEXT startup, which means, yes, there has to be a startup script and preferences since the counter is set to 0 on reboot. Anyway, I got through the whole Cocoa BS so now I'm on a roll. The issue now is a proper GUI for all the possible combinations. I'm going to focus on perefences and the startup script so that I can get something out soon, and then update it as I go along.

EDIT: Look for a preview release tomorrow. Mindfad just tried it out for me and it works on his machine. HOWEVER, this will be a preview app which means that it won't do "every day", "every week", etc. It will only allow you to set it once at this point, but at least people can use it until I get the thing working with the startup script.

Mike

starman · Jun 4, 2003, 08:51 PM

Ok, I finished the once-only version. The scheduled version will be out soon.

http://homepage.mac.com/starman/.Pub...on 0.6.dmg.sit

Mike

moonmonkey · Jun 4, 2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by TheDisaster:
I have heard from 3 different places that the fees for iBeezz are not worth it because this feature will be in Panther. I hope it's true, because I didn't plan on keeping iBeezz after my trial period is up in about a week.

Where are these 3 places??

moonmonkey · Jun 4, 2003, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by TheGreatButcher:
that is BS - there is still a "Restart Automatically After Power Failure" option

I think BS is too strong a term.