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Uncle Skeleton · May 31, 2003, 03:17 PM

I noticed a few minutes ago that my computer is downloading some mysterious data at 30 K/s. So I started quitting apps one at a time to find the culprit, and I noticed that Preview was hung. Well long story short, I can't kill it. Force Quit, kill -9, nothing can touch it. And as the only program still running, it seems to be downloading something as fast as it can. what could it be? Any explanations?

Uncle Skeleton · May 31, 2003, 03:20 PM

oh, it seems there's already a known issue in this forum about Preview taking precedence over all other known unix computing rules. Well, now there's two threads. Anyone find a solution yet?

- - e r i k - - · May 31, 2003, 03:56 PM

****. I have the same problem with Oculus. It's a dead process and I can't touch it with kill -9 or anything. Help!

ambush · May 31, 2003, 04:16 PM

Maybe it's +[NSImage initWithContentsOfURL:]

try force quitting like 2 times

Uncle Skeleton · May 31, 2003, 04:52 PM

but would that be actually downloading data at 30 K/s for hours on end? I would expect if it was failing to retrieve the image that my actual throughput would not be affected, the app would just be waiting for data

PS in the end I used escapepod to force logout. ctrl-alt-delete alone still couldn't touch it

::maroma:: · May 31, 2003, 05:09 PM

Hit the power button on your machine. Or pull the plug.

And then cross your fingers.

:XI: · May 31, 2003, 05:14 PM

Try killing the windowmanager, it'll spit you out at the login window, killing all apps in the process.

Sharky K. · May 31, 2003, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by :XI::
Try killing the windowmanager, it'll spit you out at the login window, killing all apps in the process.

I did this also and it worked...

But very strange how does it come that preview.app behaves like this at severel computers for the first time at the same time.

ZackS · May 31, 2003, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Skeleton:
ctrl-alt-delete alone still couldn't touch it

Well, I'd imagine so. Ctrl-Alt-Delete has no effect on Macs

theory · May 31, 2003, 06:55 PM

Ctrl - alt -del works if you have escape pod
(see ambrosiasw.com).

Back to the main topic. This is very wierd
behaviour. Have u reported it to apple?

proton · May 31, 2003, 08:18 PM

It is possible that an application can get into an "Uninterruptible" state where it is listed as being inside a critical part of the kernel. When an application is listed as uninterruptable, it can not be killed until that state has finished. If there is a bug in the kernel causing it to never get out of that state, then you can end up with unkillable applications.

The only solution is most cases is to reboot, where often a forced reboot with the power button (ugh) is the only way, because the system always sees this application as still running.

I've only ever seen this problem with TextEdit personally, but it's certainly possible for other applications to exhibit the same behaviour.

- proton

Cipher13 · Jun 1, 2003, 07:41 PM

"Preview" is the only app around worse than the Finder. :|

Michel Fortin · Jun 3, 2003, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
"Preview" is the only app around worse than the Finder. :|

I'm glad I made a backup of the older version of Preview before I installed Jaguar.

I still use the new one, most of the time.

climber · Jun 3, 2003, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
"Preview" is the only app around worse than the Finder. :|

that is untrue...a quick visit to the microsoft web site will provide many more.

Cipher13 · Jun 4, 2003, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by climber:
that is untrue...a quick visit to the microsoft web site will provide many more.

I stand corrected.