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Jun 13, 2003, 04:38 PM
 
I've been having trouble reading some Greek pages in Safari lately, and I'm wondering if I have a problem on my system or whether there's a bug in the OS.

If you know Greek, try running Safari v74 and OS 10.2.6, try going to:

www.kathimerini.gr

See if some capital sigmas get converted to zetas and if most lower case pis get converted to vertical bars (|). If so, I guess that the problem is not limited to my machine.

The problem began around the time I upgraded to v74, but I've since tried downgrading and had the same problem in v73. The problem also affects Camino. (I realize that Greek pages look like crap in Camino anyway, but the same characters get mis-converted). My guess is that the problem is in the text encoding converter (pages are in Windows Greek, which OS X would then convert to Unicode...), but, strangely, if I save the page source and then open it in TextEdit telling it to convert from Windows Greek to Unicode, it comes out more-or-less fine (though some characters aren't in the same font as the rest of the page).
     
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Jun 13, 2003, 06:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Tom C:
I've been having trouble reading some Greek pages in Safari lately, and I'm wondering if I have a problem on my system or whether there's a bug in the OS.

If you know Greek, try running Safari v74 and OS 10.2.6, try going to:

www.kathimerini.gr

See if some capital sigmas get converted to zetas and if most lower case pis get converted to vertical bars (|). If so, I guess that the problem is not limited to my machine.
Firstly I must confess my Greek is really rusty. However, I didn't notice any Sigmas converting to Zetas, nor psi converting to (|). But like I said my Greek is rusty, but I would have at least seen the (|) if displayed. My OS X is stock International/British English keyboard and settings.

What I did notice though is how certain letters have different weights, especially the uppercase links at the top of the page. Quite odd.
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Jun 14, 2003, 12:30 PM
 
looks good to me, no problems
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Jun 14, 2003, 01:45 PM
 
looks fine to me, although I've only studied a bit of New Testament Greek! Still, thought a pic might help. I'm using Safari v.80 however.

     
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Jun 14, 2003, 06:25 PM
 
I don't know any Greek myself, but for me the page looks exactly like willed's screenshot there. No | charachters on the page. I'm using Safari Public Beta 2 (v74).

This may be obvious, but have you tried changing the Text Encoding? There are options for ISO 8856-7 and Windows Greek.
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Jun 14, 2003, 07:48 PM
 
Originally posted by willed:
looks fine to me, although I've only studied a bit of New Testament Greek! Still, thought a pic might help. I'm using Safari v.80 however.

That shouldn't make any difference. Koine Greek uses the same alphabet and the same word base.
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Jun 14, 2003, 08:16 PM
 
Originally posted by Tom C:
I've been having trouble reading some Greek pages in Safari lately, and I'm wondering if I have a problem on my system or whether there's a bug in the OS.

If you know Greek, try running Safari v74 and OS 10.2.6, try going to:

www.kathimerini.gr

See if some capital sigmas get converted to zetas and if most lower case pis get converted to vertical bars (|). If so, I guess that the problem is not limited to my machine.

Looks good to me under 10.2.6 and Safari v74. Try the different encoding styles.
     
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Jun 15, 2003, 12:36 PM
 
foreign language, it's greek to me!
     
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Jun 15, 2003, 01:29 PM
 
Looks fine to me as well...I have every multibyte language installed, if that might make any difference.
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Jun 15, 2003, 09:22 PM
 
Well, if nobody else is having the problem, I guess that I have a problem with my machine. (It's not the encoding setting, because I've tried all of the different encodings.)

Thanks to everyone for helping out. Sas euxaristw polu!

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Jun 16, 2003, 10:54 AM
 
Turned out that a corrupted font in ~/Library/Fonts was the cause of the problem. I'm not sure why it caused the problem, nor am I sure how the font ended up there, because I didn't put it there. Some app must have installed it. Anyway, all is OK now. Thanks again.
     
   
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