[simonmartin]

Hi,

For no logical reason at all I break out in a sweat if I have to use the CL.

Does it come to the same thing if I use BBEdit? I can still open hidden files etc and I just find it more familliar.

If so, what settings do I use as the file creator and line break? (Generic Mac OSX file/generic text file and Mac/UNIX respectively)

Many thanks

Simon
London Uk

[Arkham_c]

CLI tools like vi and pico don't set a type/creator. UNIX files generally use UNIX linefeeds.

You can use BBEdit for some of these files. However, if it's a file that you don't have permission to edit, you'll have a problem with BBEdit, whereas you can just prepend "sudo" to your CLI command and have no issue.

If you're going to muck around in the command line, just take it slowly and get comfortable. If pico is too complex, you could try one of the GUI X11-based tools.

[simonmartin]

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
CLI tools like vi and pico don't set a type/creator. UNIX files generally use UNIX linefeeds.

You can use BBEdit for some of these files. However, if it's a file that you don't have permission to edit, you'll have a problem with BBEdit, whereas you can just prepend "sudo" to your CLI command and have no issue.

If you're going to muck around in the command line, just take it slowly and get comfortable. If pico is too complex, you could try one of the GUI X11-based tools.

Arkham_c,

What if I logged in as root and used BBEdit from there?
Could I set the creator to 'Generic OSX text file' and the line endings to 'UNIX'?

Can you suggest a 'GUI X11-based tool'? I have X11 installed...

Thanks

Simon

[clarkgoble]

Actually the full version of BBEdit will tell if you need root priviledges and will open a dialog box so you can still edit it. Very nice. It also has command line tools so you can pipe Unix commands to BBEdit or open files from the command line. Very nice program. Much nicer than any equivalent for the CLI or X11.

[simonmartin]

Originally posted by clarkgoble:
Actually the full version of BBEdit will tell if you need root priviledges and will open a dialog box so you can still edit it. Very nice. It also has command line tools so you can pipe Unix commands to BBEdit or open files from the command line. Very nice program. Much nicer than any equivalent for the CLI or X11.

clarkgoble,

Ok... So I *can* use BBEdit instead of Pico or whatever?

Which version of BBEdit do I need? Is this only in V7?

What do I do about the creator type/line endings?

Thanks!

Simon

[Camelot]

Originally posted by simonmartin:

Which version of BBEdit do I need? Is this only in V7?

What do I do about the creator type/line endings?

IIRC, BBEdit 6.1 was the first version to support a UI for opening 'hidden' files. 6.5 added the ability to override root file permisions (by prompting you for your sudo authentication.

As for line endings, choose 'unix'. Type and creator are irrelevant since they're ignored by unix apps.

[darkcore]

Though you specifically mentioned BBEdit, I thought id bring up the fact that you can use any cocoa text editor, including TextEdit or Hydra, to open a hidden file (including ones you have to use sudo to edit them if you use an app like Rooter). I layed out how to do this in this thread:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=163976

[simonmartin]

Originally posted by darkcore:
Though you specifically mentioned BBEdit, I thought id bring up the fact that you can use any cocoa text editor, including TextEdit or Hydra, to open a hidden file (including ones you have to use sudo to edit them if you use an app like Rooter). I layed out how to do this in this thread:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=163976

darkcore

That's a good tip, thanks.

Simon