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Jun 28, 2003, 02:04 AM
 
I have a 15" powerbook, its less than a month old. Im running OS X 10.2.6. It takes almost 3 minutes to boot up...is this normal? Thanks
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 07:49 AM
 
Does this happen on every boot?

There are two things I know of that can slow down the boot time of an otherwise healthy system:
fsck - a filesystem check after the machine was not shutdown properly (power loss, crash)
dhcp - the computer could be waiting for an unavailable network service


Where does it hang? if it hangs at the grey Apple and you hear a lot of disk activity, it is likely that the filesystem is corrupt. If it's a network thing, it hangs at the progress bar.


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Jun 28, 2003, 08:45 AM
 
my G4/800 takes 3-5 to reboot EVERY time. 90% of that time is spent onthe gray screen with the small round knob-looking icon.

Once the screen turns blue the boot finishes quickly.

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Jun 28, 2003, 10:08 AM
 
Here's hoping to increased boot speed in Panther!

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Jun 28, 2003, 10:15 AM
 
Originally posted by bkatran:
I have a 15" powerbook, its less than a month old. Im running OS X 10.2.6. It takes almost 3 minutes to boot up...is this normal? Thanks
Yes, that is normal.
However, is this something you do often? I just put my PowerBook to sleep when I don't use it, and wakeup is, as you know, instant!

I will have to restart every now and then, because of system updates, but that's normally no more than once a month.
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Jun 28, 2003, 10:21 AM
 
is there a way to temporarily disable fsck during startup ? (...and performing it later on maybe...)
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 11:42 AM
 
no i dont reboot a lot
just like you, updates, etc
i tried again and it was a little bit faster, didnt time but id guess around 2:30 most of the time spent at the grey screen
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 12:07 PM
 
Originally posted by karbon:
Yes, that is normal.
However, is this something you do often? I just put my PowerBook to sleep when I don't use it, and wakeup is, as you know, instant!

I will have to restart every now and then, because of system updates, but that's normally no more than once a month.
Normal? What makes you say that? My DP 450 takes ~45 seconds (sometimes it feels like less) to get to the login screen unless one of the two things that stew mentioned happened (fsck, network).

bkatran, I'm assuming you have no file system problems (run disk firstaid just in case or fsck the system yourself using the terminal). Given that you have a laptop, do you change internet configs often? Do you change them after you've booted (which would explain the system trying to load a particular network config that isn't available where you currently are)?

To say the least, I don't think this is normal. Jaguar can a bit slow at times but not this slow...
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 12:18 PM
 
This is not normal. Boot from your Jaguar install disk, run Disk First Aid and Repair Permissions. I'm guessing its the permissions that are screwed up....
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 12:59 PM
 
As mentioned in another thread, you hold down the shift key after booting to bypass any user installed startup items. Just like the System 9 trick. Works also with Login.

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Jun 28, 2003, 01:26 PM
 
Originally posted by noiroi:
is there a way to temporarily disable fsck during startup ? (...and performing it later on maybe...)
If you have journaling on, I believe fsck is bypassed during start up... in my experience it is... ~10 minute boot up when fsck kicks in, <1 min without, but fsck kicked in only when the computer wasn't turned off/restarted properly.

fsck can be performed manually in the command line.
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 01:27 PM
 
i just shut down, and booted up
i got 1:23? is that more normal?
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 02:36 PM
 
Originally posted by bkatran:
i just shut down, and booted up
i got 1:23? is that more normal?
I think you're getting closer. As I mentioned above, my computer boots up in about 45 seconds.

I find it rather strange that your computer has always done this. As others mentioned above, maybe it does have something to do with permissions or even journaling.
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 04:12 PM
 
You can also boot in verbose mode (I believe holding command-v or option-v at the startup chime is the hotkey for it) to see Darwin's boot messages instead of the grey Apple. That might give you a hint what's taking so long.


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Jun 28, 2003, 05:19 PM
 
apparently panther boots in about 13 seconds. correct me if i'm wrong someone
     
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Jun 28, 2003, 06:26 PM
 
As someone mentioned earlier, Repair Permissions. I have a 266mHz G3 that boots in about 1 1/2 min with 10.2.6 because I repair permissions about twice a month. It works.
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Jun 28, 2003, 06:49 PM
 
Originally posted by 7Macfreak:
apparently panther boots in about 13 seconds. correct me if i'm wrong someone
Depends on hardware, and what is installed.

And if the computer was shut down properly last time, since I think fsck runs automatically if it is not shut down properly.

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Jun 29, 2003, 08:32 PM
 
I run a G4 800 eMac and after repairing permissions and clearing cache it starts in about 30 seconds
     
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Jun 30, 2003, 07:01 AM
 
My 500 MHz G3 ("old style") iMac normally takes 1:15 to 1:20 to boot up. Booting up after a kernel panic adds about 15 seconds.
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Jun 30, 2003, 05:53 PM
 
My poor old iMac takes forever to startup. I've discovered that its a HD problem but fsck can't fix it, but if one starts up in single user mode one can just type 'exit' once all the stuff has loaded up and startup normally.
     
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Jul 1, 2003, 03:55 AM
 
Talking bout personal experiences my mac takes about 2/3 minutes to boot when it's force stopped, 2 minutes normally but i sow that a lot of slowdown is caused by HD load. a nearly full hard disk takes more to boot than a hard disk with less bullshiznit inside. and extra panes or extensions also slow down the process
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Jul 1, 2003, 04:17 AM
 
Originally posted by tashi:
Talking bout personal experiences my mac takes about 2/3 minutes to boot when it's force stopped, 2 minutes normally but i sow that a lot of slowdown is caused by HD load. a nearly full hard disk takes more to boot than a hard disk with less bullshiznit inside. and extra panes or extensions also slow down the process
True dat, the fuller the drive, the slower the load. Down to the last 9 gig on my 17 laptop, and it takes a minute at least to boot - from a clean shut down. When I was using it with only a few gigs on it, total start time couldn't have been much over 30 seconds.
     
   
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