[bacchus]

Anyone know anything?

[Matt OS X]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Anyone know anything?

Eh?? Where did you get that message?? I haven't heard anything yet. Where's the source that you heard abut 7B44?

[Matt OS X]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Anyone know anything?

Hey you're right, I found this site related with 7B44:

http://www.macrumors.com/

[gorickey]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy....

[Adam Betts]

[MacGorilla]

I hear it slices, dices and makes julian fries now.

[JellyBeen]

Originally posted by Adam Betts:

[trusted_content]

I heard that it was sn

[Webscreamer]

I just can't wait for the arguments to start up what version is actually GM and what's shipping, when that time nears! It's worth a laugh

[iDriveX]

Trust me, this is no where near GM status. Without getting to specific, I would not advise anyone to use the FileVault for any data that they are afraid of loosing in these Beta Builds. In a few words, the seed note for this build pretty much said that any files that had been in the File Vault in previous builds would have to be taken out, backed up, the new OS would have to be installed over the old one by erasing it and then to reincorporate these files into the FileVault, you had to go into the terminal and type stuff. There was also a few other notes about the dock being very flaky in this release and a few "features" that have been disabled and will be re-enabled in later builds. Be Forewarned.

[starman]

Originally posted by Matt OS X:
Eh?? Where did you get that message?? I haven't heard anything yet. Where's the source that you heard abut 7B44?

There are actually some of us on the seed mailing list. Imagine that.

P.S. Segements SUCK

Mike

[normyzo]

Fer chrissake, I just got done with 3 CDs worth of segments for the last build, and now I've got to get another one to test my apps against. Its almost a joke to be an ADC member getting the seeds, since if I got them illegally they probably wouldn't be in segments and it would probably be faster too.

Dan

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by normyzo:
Fer chrissake, I just got done with 3 CDs worth of segments for the last build, and now I've got to get another one to test my apps against. Its almost a joke to be an ADC member getting the seeds, since if I got them illegally they probably wouldn't be in segments and it would probably be faster too.

Dan

It's pretty hard to beat the 1.5 MB/s downloads I get from the ADC.

[iDriveX]

Yes, segments do suck, but atleast this time around, they included instructions on how to put the segments together, last seed, there was segments, but no note in the seed on how to put together. Not that it took to long to do, but still...

[Diggory Laycock]

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
I hear it slices, dices and makes julian fries now.

Juliénne?

[oogje]

What problem do people have with segments?

ber

[Gul Banana]

A little bird told me that 7B44 fixes some bugs, refines some features, and makes numerous minor improvements to several areas of the system!

[JLL]

Originally posted by starman:
P.S. Segements SUCK

Why? It's faster this way, and if the connection halts during the download, you don't have to start over.

[JLL]

Originally posted by iDriveX:
last seed, there was segments, but no note in the seed on how to put together.

Perhaps they figured that developers knew how to use Disk Copy - it's only been that way at least since Mac OS 8

[JLL]

Originally posted by iDriveX:
Trust me, this is no where near GM status. Without getting to specific, I would not advise anyone to use the FileVault for any data that they are afraid of loosing in these Beta Builds. In a few words, the seed note for this build pretty much said that any files that had been in the File Vault in previous builds would have to be taken out, backed up, the new OS would have to be installed over the old one by erasing it and then to reincorporate these files into the FileVault, you had to go into the terminal and type stuff.

Perhaps you should read the note again to see why you have to do it - it has nothing to do with the quality of 7B44.

Originally posted by iDriveX:
There was also a few other notes about the dock being very flaky in this release and a few "features" that have been disabled and will be re-enabled in later builds. Be Forewarned.

Please, read the note again. It mentions nothing about the Dock being flaky.

[Zadian]

Originally posted by JLL:
Perhaps they figured that developers knew how to use Disk Copy - it's only been that way at least since Mac OS 8

How do I create a segmented disc image? I haven't found a way to do this with Disc Copy.

Can this be done with the terminal, or is there a special developer tool needed to do so?

[gorickey]

Originally posted by JLL:
Perhaps you should read the note again to see why you have to do it - it has nothing to do with the quality of 7B44.

Please, read the note again. It mentions nothing about the Dock being flaky.

Post that note so ALL of us can read it again...

[iFix Rene]

yeh I lost my copy of that note
it was in Filevault
LOL

[starman]

I understand WHY there are segments, but when I was DLing the last seed, my connection would die, I'd have to log in again after DLing 2 or 3 segements, etc. At least last night I was able to keep my connection open a little longer and I didn't have to log in.

I only got Disc 1 though.

Mike

[gorickey]

Originally posted by iFix Rene:
yeh I lost my copy of that note
it was in Filevault
LOL

Haha, nice!

[Scifience]

How dare they release another beta! I haven't even finished downloading the last one yet!

[dr. zoidberg]

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
A little bird told me that 7B44 fixes some bugs, refines some features, and makes numerous minor improvements to several areas of the system!

uhmm really, and now tell me, how can you say that without breaking some kind of NDA, huh?? WILL YOU EVER LEARN????

ahah... muahaha.. haha.... heh... heh. now that was funny.

[gorickey]

Originally posted by dr. zoidberg:
uhmm really, and now tell me, how can you say that without breaking some kind of NDA, huh?? WILL YOU EVER LEARN????

ahah... muahaha.. haha.... heh... heh. now that was funny.

Actually, I think your signature is funnier. I remember when I read that the first time...

[suthercd]

normyzo-

Let's see. Apple is making rapid improvements to their software. And this is inconvenient and a bother to YOU. So, they need to adjust their plan to accomodate YOU. Typical.

C

[Adam Betts]

Originally posted by suthercd:
normyzo-

Let's see. Apple is making rapid improvements to their software. And this is inconvenient and a bother to YOU. So, they need to adjust their plan to accomodate YOU. Typical.

C

I agree but please don't let this thread turn to another ADC fight

[gralem]

Originally posted by suthercd:
normyzo-

Let's see. Apple is making rapid improvements to their software. And this is inconvenient and a bother to YOU. So, they need to adjust their plan to accomodate YOU. Typical.

C

I think people were joking about new releases coming out too fast. I haven't installed one since 7B21. Really looking forward to this one.

Keep 'em coming!

---graelm

[tooki]

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
Juliénne?

Actually, potatoes are less commonly julienned than frenched -- hence "frenched fries" which became "french fries!"

tooki

[Horsepoo!!!]

Originally posted by tooki:
Actually, potatoes are less commonly julienned than frenched -- hence "frenched fries" which became "french fries!"

tooki

It's not everyday we run into a potato connoisseur like yourself, tooki. Share the passion.

[iDriveX]

Please, read the note again. It mentions nothing about the Dock being flaky. [/B][/QUOTE]

Don't nitpick, the main point of my post was that there are issues with this build and before people go screaming willynilly that this is a FC, I just thought people should know.

Here's the direct quote:

"If you used FileVault on 7B39, you may need to do this workaround to get to your data:: - While logged out of FileVault, SSH or log in as another user and see if there is a /User/<shortname of the FileVault user> - If so, delete it (This is causing the mount point of the image to be /Users/<username> 1 which is not your home path.) Once you work around this issue, log in and turn off file vault for the user before you install 7B44."

and

"If you performed an erase install and you have your home directory on another volume, your dock may see question marks in place of familiar applications"

[JLL]

Originally posted by iDriveX:
Don't nitpick, the main point of my post was that there are issues with this build and before people go screaming willynilly that this is a FC, I just thought people should know.

No, they are actually issues with 7B39 which you will experience when upgrading to 7B44

Originally posted by iDriveX:
Here's the direct quote:

"If you used FileVault on 7B39, you may need to do this workaround to get to your data:: - While logged out of FileVault, SSH or log in as another user and see if there is a /User/<shortname of the FileVault user> - If so, delete it (This is causing the mount point of the image to be /Users/<username> 1 which is not your home path.) Once you work around this issue, log in and turn off file vault for the user before you install 7B44."

You forgot the reason:

"1) For FileVault user only - there are changes in the FileVault disk image format such that they are not compatible with the previous seed's. "

It's not because there are bugs in 7B44, but because they changed the format.

Originally posted by iDriveX:
and

"If you performed an erase install and you have your home directory on another volume, your dock may see question marks in place of familiar applications"

Please read further. Because you have the homedir on another volume you need to replace the newly installed dock prefs with the previous one.

[iFix Rene]

yeh that seems to be a dockiconcache issue
orso but not a 'flaky dock'

[Porfiry]

Can this be done with the terminal, or is there a special developer tool needed to do so?

In the Terminal:
hdiutil burn firstsegment.dmg

[iFix Rene]

guy wants to know how to MAKE segmented
DMG not how to burn 'em

[JLL]

Originally posted by iFix Rene:
guy wants to know how to MAKE segmented
DMG not how to burn 'em

hdiutil segment -o firstSegname -segmentCount <#segs> imagename

or:

hdiutil segment -o firstSegname -segmentSize <size> imagename

Where imagename is the name of the original image and <#segs> is the number of segments you want, and <size> is the size of the segments in sectors.

Edit: a typo.

[Matt OS X]

Hey, I'm way confused here.. I see no one talking about B44 coming out?? isn't there?

[Zadian]

Originally posted by JLL:
hdutil segment -o firstSegname -segmentCount <#segs> imagename

or:

hdutil segment -o firstSegname -segmentSize <size> imagename

Where imagename is the name of the original image and <#segs> is the number of segments you want, and <size> is the size of the segments.

Thank you very much.

Segmented disc images appear to be a good way to save a 10 GB restore disc image onto CD-Rs.
I will try it.

[JLL]

Originally posted by Zadian:
Thank you very much.

Segmented disc images appear to be a good way to save a 10 GB restore disc image onto CD-Rs.
I will try it.

There's a typo in my post: it's hdiutil

segmentSize is defined in sectors.

[bastion]

Yes, 7B44 is out. Definitely.

[Matt OS X]

Originally posted by bastion:
Yes, 7B44 is out. Definitely.

Alright, okay.. just wanted to make sure.

[brainchild2b]

That's cool with the segments! How can I put them back together though?

[bgmccollum]

i hear there is a new system preferences icon...the apple is sunk...

[zachs]

I've heard that if, say, you're in an application and open another app through the Dock, the second app opens in the background.

True?

[bgmccollum]

i heard thats not true

[bgmccollum]

i heard sheets are now 3D...


THEY FLIP OUT AT YOU...

ok, for instance...say the sheet was perpindicular to your screen

then it folds down to reveal itself...

[bgmccollum]

it comes out of a slit in the window...

http://www.bgmccollum.com/panther/sheets.jpg