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kennedy · Aug 27, 2003, 07:22 AM

Just got a new PB12 and an external 18" monitor.
Given I use the PB12 as my keyboard, I setup the secondary
monitor to sit right above the PB screen... giving me a
near-continuous tall screen.

I arranged the screens accordingly in Displays, leaving the
PowerBook as the main screen. So, I can drag the mouse
straight up through the menu bar to the secondary monitor.
Great.

However, if I try to drag a window from lower to upper, the
window stops at the menubar... only the mouse goes to the top
screen. Grr.

Is there any key command or otherwise that will send a window
to the secondary monitor (since I can't drag it there)?

(For now, I've changed my main screen to be the external and
changed my Dock to be on left edge... assuming there is no
answer to the above.)

Moose · Aug 27, 2003, 07:53 AM

http://bugreporter.apple.com/

That's probably a bug. And, if it isn't, they'll give you an explanation for why it isn't.

Spheric Harlot · Aug 27, 2003, 08:43 AM

Interesting.

OS X introduced a limitation that OS 9 didn't have: You can't drag windows under the menu bar. This is good and makes sense, but this situation is indeed a weird side effect that should probably be fixed.

Only option I can think of is to drag the menu bar onto the external monitor. (You can do that in the Monitors pane of the System Preferences.

-s*

shortcipher · Aug 27, 2003, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by kennedy:
Just got a new PB12 and an external 18" monitor.
Given I use the PB12 as my keyboard, I setup the secondary
monitor to sit right above the PB screen... giving me a
near-continuous tall screen.

I arranged the screens accordingly in Displays, leaving the
PowerBook as the main screen. So, I can drag the mouse
straight up through the menu bar to the secondary monitor.
Great.

However, if I try to drag a window from lower to upper, the
window stops at the menubar... only the mouse goes to the top
screen. Grr.

Is there any key command or otherwise that will send a window
to the secondary monitor (since I can't drag it there)?

(For now, I've changed my main screen to be the external and
changed my Dock to be on left edge... assuming there is no
answer to the above.)

its because your monitors are arranged vertically, OSX doesnt allow a window to be dragged under the menubar on a 1 monitor setup, (imagine how annoying it would be if you could position a window such that its title bar was underneath the menu bar), so even though your monitors are arranged vertically you still cant drag a window from one to another because the menubar is in the way. Arranging the monitors side my side or putting the menubar on the top screen are probably your only solutions.

kennedy · Aug 27, 2003, 08:50 AM

Hmmph. I guess they picked the lesser of two evils.

So, is there any key command that just pops a window over onto the secondary screen?

Art Vandelay · Aug 27, 2003, 12:56 PM

As was said before, move the menu bar to the top monitor in the Displays pref pane. Then you can drag windows back and forth between the two vertical monitors.

kennedy · Aug 27, 2003, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
As was said before, move the menu bar to the top monitor in the Displays pref pane. Then you can drag windows back and forth between the two vertical monitors.

I know... I said that in my original question... that's what I did for now... the point of my question in this thread is to determine if there is a way to send a window to the other screen WITHOUT dragging so that I don't have to put the menubar on the top monitor. I am guessing its not possible, based on the responses so far.

Thanks.

OwlBoy · Aug 27, 2003, 06:26 PM

Wow, your cursor has to travel through the menubar when using 2 monitors? cool!

I always thought having 2 monitors would be an annoyance with no monitor edges...

-Owl

kennedy · Aug 27, 2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
Wow, your cursor has to travel through the menubar when using 2 monitors? cool!

I always thought having 2 monitors would be an annoyance with no monitor edges...

It doesn't have to go thru the menubar... but it can and will... just depends upon where you tell it to put the menubar.

And you don't have no edges... its not like a game of Asteroids where it wraps... it just eliminates one edge on each monitor... and if that matches your physical orientation of the monitors, its very natural.

Joshua Snyder · Aug 27, 2003, 09:19 PM

I have seen this configuration many times, it was broken in 10.0 and 10.1, but it works in 10.2, However, you have to drag the window up so that the entire window can fit on the upper monitor.

I.E. if you have a window that is 400 pixels high, you have to drag the mouse 400+ Pixels Above the menu-bar.

Josh

kaboom · Aug 27, 2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Joshua Snyder:
I have seen this configuration many times, it was broken in 10.0 and 10.1, but it works in 10.2, However, you have to drag the window up so that the entire window can fit on the upper monitor.

I.E. if you have a window that is 400 pixels high, you have to drag the mouse 400+ Pixels Above the menu-bar.

Josh

It's actually kinda weird. If you have a small window and drag it up, it won't appear in the top monitor until the whole window is dragged up. If you have a large window that is bigger than the the top monitor then it shows up almost immediately on the top screen.
Not sure whether this should be classified as a bug or not

Art Vandelay · Aug 27, 2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by kennedy:
I know... I said that in my original question... that's what I did for now... the point of my question in this thread is to determine if there is a way to send a window to the other screen WITHOUT dragging so that I don't have to put the menubar on the top monitor. I am guessing its not possible, based on the responses so far.

Thanks.

Oops. Missed that detail.