[Zoom]

Due to the recent rash of viruses (virii?), not to mention plenty of other flaky problems with our Windows XP machines, the management here is actually considering a change. They're looking to Linux, because (a) they know Unix and (b) we can run it on our existing hardware. That last reason will be tough to argue, just due to economics, but I'm going to try to pitch the whole "cost of ownership" thing.

So, I need some solid, unbiased, fairly recent articles that review OS X and the Mac platform.

We do mainly Java and C++ development here, with a little web stuff. We do mainly realtime server work, with a couple sample client side apps (Windows, Java). But we also have to run MS Office (Excel, Word, Powerpoint). We have a couple key development apps that might cause problems, like Continuus for CM (horrible tool), JBuilder, and OptimizeIt. Some of these we can just run on Solaris (our target platform for our product) and export the display using the build-in X11.

I've looked at the Apple web site, but most of what I saw was from newspapers articles that were geared towards home users.

Ars Technica has some lengthy reviews of the OS, but that might be a little too much for this first phase.

I need short, glowing articles that highlight the strengths of Mac OS X and the Mac platform, especially with respest to Wintel and security concerns.

[Zoom]

I guess I should post what I already have...

http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/31432.html
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...861736,00.html
http://www.networkcomputing.com/1224/1224sp1.html
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...gy/3178215.htm

[Gee4orce]

http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/...FEapple_2.html

http://gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/23302-1.html

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_...fm?NewsID=6798

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...3851_tc056.htm

...all from today's Macsurfer.

[TheIceMan]

Gee4orce: Well done. You beat me to it.

[Silky Voice of The Gorn]

"virii" is NOT a real word. The plural of "virus" is "viruses".

STOP IT PEOPLE!

[OptimusG4]

Originally posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn:
"virii" is NOT a real word. The plural of "virus" is "viruses".

STOP IT PEOPLE!

Dude, chill. He had a question mark after it so he knew that it might not be the correct way to pluralize it.

[Zoom]

Originally posted by OptimusG4:
Dude, chill. He had a question mark after it so he knew that it might not be the correct way to pluralize it.

Right on.

We can't get too bent out of shape on English and grammar here, as long as the point comes across.

[juanpacolopez]

Originally posted by Zoom:
Right on.

We can't get too bent out of shape on English and grammar here, as long as the point comes across.

Most notably because many of our (in some cases more active) contributers are from overseas and may perhaps not use Enlish as their primary language.

[sniffer]

Originally posted by juanpacolopez:
Most notably because many of our (in some cases more active) contributers are from overseas and may perhaps not use Enlish as their primary language.

I find it amusing to see that you spelled English wrong when English obviously must be your native tongue.

[PubGuy]

Don't remember where I saw this, but I clipped it and saved it (it was something published in August 2003). Says A LOT if you're developing for Java.

=======================

Java Creator Gosling on Mac OS X
Posted August 21, 2003

James Gosling, the creator of the Java programming language, started switching to Mac OS X early last year. In a recent posting to his blog Gosling responds to "a troll-ish set of remarks based on zero knowledge and spreading massive falsehoods" about his experience, preferred development language, and his preferred computing platform. Gosling had this to say about Mac OS X:
“I use the MAC because it's a great platform. One of the nice things about developing in Java on the MAC is that you get to develop on a lovely machine, but you don't cut yourself off from deploying on other platforms. It's a fast and easy platform to develop on. Rock solid. I never reboot my machine... Really! Opening and closing the lid on a Powerbook actually works. The machine is up and running instantly when you open it up. No viruses. Great User Interface. All the Java tools work here: NetBeans and JEdit are the ones I use most. I tend to think of OSX and [sic. as?] Linux with QA and Taste.”

[brainchild2b]

what area are you in? I've been pitching OS X to companies for a long time succesfully. If your in LA area I'd gladly come convince them to switch, and if not I'd be willing to do a conference call to help you out.

[Zoom]

As my info says, I'm in RTP (Raleigh, NC).

I've been pushing at this gently, and I think we just missed the window. We just recently refreshed a lot of our systems, so there's just no budget for new machines. But I appreciate the responses. Maybe this will help others, and maybe this will influence the next round of upgrades... whenever that is.

[Brass]

Originally posted by Zoom:
As my info says, I'm in RTP (Raleigh, NC).

I've been pushing at this gently, and I think we just missed the window. We just recently refreshed a lot of our systems, so there's just no budget for new machines. But I appreciate the responses. Maybe this will help others, and maybe this will influence the next round of upgrades... whenever that is.

Another good angle is that ANY one platform is courting disaster security and virus -wise. Ie, if you're using the same platform on all your desktop machines, then a hacker or a virus can compromise every machine in exactly the same way. If you're using a mix of platforms, then only some of the machines can be compromised by that particular attack. This is what the security experts are telling people.

[booboo]

Originally posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn:
"virii" is NOT a real word. The plural of "virus" is "viruses".

STOP IT PEOPLE!

Perhaps if you're really against language abuse you'll help me in my crusade to stop Americans writing 'ala'.

I mean WTF do they think they mean?

Or are they just bragging about how little they know of the French language?



Thanks, you've been great.

[booboo]

There is an irony in that OS X is probably more than ready for at least mid-level deployment, but on the small office level, Apple's own subsidiary FileMaker still can't get their product working properly - server and client 'issues'...

[juanpacolopez]

Originally posted by sniffer:
I find it amusing to see that you spelled English wrong when English obviously must be your native tongue.

English is, in fact my native tongue; most days I tend to be fairly well versed in its usage...

Every once in a while, however, my fingers get lazy and miss a key or hit the same key twice

[dfiler]

Off topic:
I hereby disavow all formal grammatical constructs of foregone centuries... just to piss booboo and all his boobotic colleagues.

Dictating a 'proper' way to communicate is absurd. Normally it means that the perpetrator is trying to quelsh forms that disrupt their thought process. Yet, a global grammatical cleansing would cause everyone but the cleansers to communicate in a structure outside of their thought process. And yes, Ebonics has more tenses than English.

Example: Eminem would be hard pressed to articulate his thoughts in perfect hierarchies of inner rhyme if limitied to booboo's little house of grammatical convalescence.

Wouldn't it be a pain if we all walked around sounding like George Washinton's diary? Go for it booboo; We wouldn't want verbalistic darwinism would we?

In other news: Portmanteaus are less than a century old... you know words like Micro-Soft. Good thing the grammer police weren't around in the 40s and 50s. Watch... i'll make another combreviation on the spot. (did you catch it?)

[Thinine]

I'm having flashbacks of 10th grade grammar...

[yoyoman]

Originally posted by brainchild2b:
what area are you in? I've been pitching OS X to companies for a long time succesfully. If your in LA area I'd gladly come convince them to switch, and if not I'd be willing to do a conference call to help you out.

sweet. can you messageme email or something. I am in a school with all windwos and i need some good info to back my self up on why osx is better like osx server compared to 2000 advanced server etc.