[Buzz Lightbeer]

http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/macsuck.wmv

Potential switchers want to know!

[msuper69]

[SMacTech]

Obviously it is from someone that never used OS X and has a biggie for XP. What the heck is cloverleaf-space bar period used for again?
It is kind of funny though.

[Diggory Laycock]

Hmm - Looks like someone is angry because their valuable Windows-centric knowledge is not valid on the Mac - (reminds me a lot of People who complained that OS X was not identical in UI to Mac OS 9)

I gave up half way through - but lets see:

1 - Why is Command-Option-Esc any more "unnatural" than Ctrl-Alt-Delete?

2 - Dragging Files to the desktop from a CD copies the file (does not make an alias as claimed) - And they don't disappear when the Volume is ejected.

3 - I have *never* had my mac shut down unexpectedly.

4 - He doesn't know how to restart his computer in case of a lock-up - fair enough, but don't claim that you can't and have to unplug it - just read the fscking documentation - or just Google for it.

A platform is not bad because of one's refusal to learn about it.

I would not be able to do many normal things on a PC straight away - but before damning it I would try to find out how to do them.

I know that this was all flamebait - but I couldn't resist - this is FUD of the highest order.

[Diggory Laycock]

Oh btw - for any new Mac OS X users who would like to know more about their Mac, or the Mac OS - there is a huge amount of information available - open Sherlock (/Applications/Sherlock) and go to the AppleCare section.

or Open Help Centre (Command-Shift-?)

[ASIMO]

That is it. I am switching back.

[Gee4orce]

One of the things I'm most looking forward to in Panther is a decent Help application. The current one is an embarassment.

[Simon]

Originally posted by Gee4orce:
One of the things I'm most looking forward to in Panther is a decent Help application. The current one is an embarassment.

Has a new one been confirmed in Panther? Didn't know about that...

Nice.

[sandsl]

Originally posted by Simon:
Has a new one been confirmed in Panther? Didn't know about that...

Nice.

Let me confirm it for you. Yes, there is a new help system in Panther and its a whole lot better.

I'm not even going to waste my time in response to the switch anti-mac audio file. Want to find out about a Mac? Have ago on one and make your own mind up.

[Powaqqatsi]

I only got audio, no video. Is this the true WMV experience ?

[mitchell_pgh]

Yah, this guy obviously doesn't know anything about the different OSs from Apple. He is going back and forth between OS X and OS 9. I guess it could be confusing for someone that doesn't take a half hour to figure out a few of the basic differences between their Windows Computer and a Mac.

You don't have to "trick" applications into doing anything. 8/10 applications are identical to their Windows counterparts.

He said that he doesn't feel like he is operating the mac, but rather sharing the Macintosh experience. Hmmm, that's how I feel when I'm using windows.

The guy may be referring to the window manager dying (I had this happen... using an application... poof, I'm at the login window...)

Ummm, there is a little thing that says force quit under the Apple icon in the top left hand corner... There is no "Cloverleaf period command" (perhaps he is thinking about OS 9??? Either way, it's no more difficult (if not less so) then Windows.

Power Off In Emergency = Hold down power button for 5 seconds

Files disappearing: That's an old OS 9 issue... NOT so in OS X (He is ranting. If I were to do the same things with Windows, it would be like me complaining about Windows 95 problems even when they have been updated or corrected

He then starts in on the dock bouncing (again switching from OS 9 to OS X) Ummm, Yes it's bouncing to get your attention that there is a system update! It could be very important for all you know [dumbass]. He then goes on to say that he is looking around for the executable (a windows term)

Then he makes some ridiculous clam that he had to find an executable (even though software update does everything for you without you having to do more then enter an admin password or click "OK" (an obvious misrepresentation)

Then he starts saying something about the dock, but I never got what he was trying to say... obviously the top is reserved for the pull down menues... IT'S A MAC!!!

Then he says that he edited everything you saw tonight on a macintosh... then how did it get into a proprietary M$ format?

Oh well...

[nobitacu]

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
I only got audio, no video. Is this the true WMV experience ?

That's micro$oft for you. a land where nothing works right or longer than a 24 hour period.

Ming

[parsec_kadets]

Yeah, flame fodder here. I still thought it was kind of funny though. If you just accept that the guy is ranting for the sake of ranting it's humorous. I think he sounds too much like Chris Perillo from TechTV (well, not anymore). Damn that guy was annoying. Oh, I couldn't see the video either. What does that say about the Microsoft experience?

[mitchell_pgh]

If Tech TV made a 1/2 hour or even hour weekly show with the soul purpose of showcasing the Mac, I would tune in every week.

I wonder why nobody does that considering our following.

[videian28]

okay that was damn funny!

[SomeToast]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Then he makes some ridiculous clam that he had to find an executable

That's why I don't use Windows -- it's riddled with ridiculous clams. I hate seafood.

(Sorry to hop on a typo, but the term "ridiculous clam" cracked me up for some reason. Damn wacky mollusks! )

[CharlesS]

Wow... just wow...

So much stuff in that video is just blatantly untrue, that it's amazing.

A lot of stuff has been covered by other posters - I'll just add a few:

1. The only way I know of that a Mac would just "shut down" unexpectedly would be if there was a power outage. Or if you were on a laptop and the battery died or something. Needless to say, I've never seen this, except for the above two situations, in 18 years of using Macs. If he's getting this regularly, he should have his computer taken to the shop for hardware problems.

2. I don't know what the hell he's talking about when he claims that click-and-drag doesn't drag or make copies - it certainly does. It does not make a shortcut icon on your Desktop unless you're holding down the Command and Option keys. And as for "the only operating system I know of that does this" - bullshít. I think he was using Windows by mistake and thinking it was a Mac, because this is one of the things that annoys me about Windows. If it doesn't think you should move something, it makes a shortcut. It doesn't copy, it shortcuts. You never know what it's going to do, which is why a friend of mine who uses Windows always uses right-drag to copy or move files, so that he can choose "Move" or "Copy" from the resulting menu and so he knows what will happen. Many others use cut-and-paste or hold down a key to force the behavior they want.

The only time I can think of this happening on a Mac would be the little proxy icons in the title bars of Cocoa apps. These do indeed make an alias unless you hold down Command (to move) or Option (to copy). This is something that's annoyed me for some time, and which I've been pestering the Apple feedback page with for a while. But dragging just about anywhere else will produce the expected result.

3. Accidentally renaming files and making the system crash - bullshït! Has he ever heard of file permissions? The operating system won't allow you to rename an important system file unless you specifically override it. "But really, I typed 'sudo mv /System/Library/ /System/blah' completely by accident! And then my cat stepped on the keyboard and just happened to land on the keys that type my admin password!" Bullshît.

[LeeG]

The outrageous oysters are aggravating as well.

[hunkhuang]

hey, i just downloaded the macsuck.wmv .. but my Windows Media Player just can't play the movie..

Can someone teach me ? please...

[Geobunny]

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
I only got audio, no video. Is this the true WMV experience ?

No, I think he was going for some form of irony "everything you saw tonight was made on a Mac".

You're then supposed to thing "Hold on, I never saw anything"

He then says "Exactly, cos I couldn't"

I have no comment about the content other than to say that it was a complete waste of time.

[Telusman]

he's talking about Command + . In Mac OS 9 and X (?) Command + . would cancel what any current application was doing, it was (is) highly unreliable in Mac OS 9 but worked flawlessly in photoshop to cancel large renders that would take till the end of time to complete. Edit: It also works in OS X under Safari to cancel loading of a webpage, and probably many other apps.

This guy that thinks files disappears is a complete moron, all files go to the trash first. This guy is totally ignorant to anything Mac except a basic concept of what it looks like. Is he actually trying to drag stuff onto his menubar like you can the Windows Task bar? thats silly...

May this guy forever ride the short bus for wherever he goes, which by the looks of his overall knowledge of any platform... nowhere.

[iPond317]

Obviously this person has issues and is an idiot. He also has no idea what he's doing with Mac OS X.

[bmedina]

Sounds more like Windows than OS X.

[iPond317]

Originally posted by bmedina:
Sounds more like Windows than OS X.

Either way he's an idiot and shouldn't use computers at all.

[Horsepoo!!!]

I downloaded the wmv file at work and it crashed Windows XP and formatted my hard drive. Geezus Kryst I hate Windows.

[gthyb]

holy crap. that guy is retarted.

[hunkhuang]

help help help... how to view this movie?? My Windows Media Player just doesn't work with this.


i'm so curious...

[osiris]

The video won't work with me either.
It's just like the other .wmv files I sometimes download.

[TheDisaster]

I have seen this before, a few times. The first time I downloaded it it didn't have video for me. But then a few months later I stumbled upon it again, re-downloaded it and just opened it in VLC and the video worked. I don't know if it was actually a different file or just that the OS X version of Windows Media Player is a crippled P.O.S. I was at a friend's house and he started WMP in XP and it looked and functioned like a decent application, not good, but decent. Of course they make the OS X version buggy, handicapped, and play horribly.

[GENERAL_SMILEY]

latest version of wmv doesn't work in any of the players, as far as I am aware.

[michaelb]

IS there any video?

Or is that the "joke" maybe.

I tried this on an XP machine and it just played the audio with a visualizer swirling.

As for the content: the guy sounds ready to strap Dell laptop batteries to his vest and walk into an Apple store. There's some sort of ideological conflict thing going on.

[moreno]

Potential switchers want to know!

oh god, i think that my macs aren't problematic. they are slow, but, well, apple likes to kill our macs with that quartz animations without any option to turn of that shi+, oh well, that's the fu´king life...

[rlmorel]

Hehe, it was a waste of time listening to it. But...it did remind me of something...

USING MICROSOFT WORD ON A PC!

I am constantly fighting with all those friggin helpers and auto completers and crap. Sometimes, all I want to do is a simple index, and the frigging thing keeps trying to format it one way, and I keep trying to work AROUND what it is trying to do...

Now whenever I have to install Word on a PC at work for someone, I go in and kill EVERY DAMN "HELPFUL" "FEATURE" before I turn the PC back over to them.

Which reminds me, does anyone have a link to the graphic showing a screenshot of MS Word where some guy is writing a suicide letter, and the little POS dog pops up saying "It looks like you're trying to write a letter...can I help?" I damn near busted a gasket at that one!

[Saetre]

Yea, that suicide thing was excellent. It was a BOFH movie or soemhting. I think theregister.com links to it somewhere. I'll have a look.

[Macpilot]

I thought it was pretty funny. Except there was no video, just audio.

[Gavin]

You guys are taking this way too seriously.

As a spoof on the switch commercials it's pretty good. It really captures the PC wank attitude toward the mac c. 1997. Judging by his overall mac literacy I'd say he used a performa for a couple of weeks. Most of the stuff he's talking about is from OS 8 and it's true. Anybody remember netscape 2 hanging your whole system 4 times a day? cool:

Anyway, I think it's a good sign that the only things he can find to make fun of are 7 years out of date.:

[suprz]

i got you all topped!!! i'm at work right now and i just clicked the link to view the wmv and my computer told me it couldnt play the file because it needed a plug in......AND IT'S A WINDOWS BOX RUNNING WINDOWS 2000 PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!

how's that for a windows experience.????.....

[voodoo]

that file don't work for me.

[Sarc]

uhhh ... was that video ?
I can only hear audio ... tried it on WMP, VLC and mplayer