[bacchus]

Is it me or has the cube animation that occurred when you switched between user accounts in the first couple of builds of Panther disapeared from recent builds?

Can't seem to get it to happen and don't see a setting to toggle the animation.

Anyone?

[- - e r i k - -]

Aaah! It's true. 7B68 has the animation disabled for some reason.

(Good thing I kept it off my laptop (where I use multiple logins), it would be hard to live without it).

It will probably be re-enabled in later builds.

[bacchus]

Not limited to 7B68 as i'm still using B59.

Anyone else?

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Not limited to 7B68 as i'm still using B59.

Anyone else?

Really? I'm pretty sure it works in my 7b59. Perhaps it's graphic card related?

[bacchus]

Well i'm on an 867 12" Powerbook, should be way more card than needed.

My new 12' 1ghz should be here right away, i'll try it on that as well I guess.

[jessejlt]

7B68
iBook 600 w/ Airport and 684 mb RAM
Cube Animation works for me.
jesse ;-)

[bacchus]

Okay seriously have i managed to turn the animation off somehow?

Can't see a setting for it anywhere.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Okay seriously have i managed to turn the animation off somehow?

Can't see a setting for it anywhere.

Definitly odd. Switching appears faster without it though...

[Moonray]

The pictures of that animation are still on Apple's Panther page, so you all can hope.
Maybe there will be an option to turn it off in the final release to prevent people from getting dizzy.

But there is a problem I see ... that cube turns only around a vertical axis so there is only space for four users ... they might extend it to six if they include a horizontal axis (though that would be problematic since you would be able to turn in an upside-down screen). Is there any workaround known so far to switch between more users?

-

[bacchus]

Hey, here's a thought.

Could it have something to do with the fact that i'm running off an external monitor.?

[ckohler]

If you cycle through a ton of active users the cube will just keep spinning left over and over and over. It doesn't actually reserve a side for each user.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally posted by ckohler:
If you cycle through a ton of active users the cube will just keep spinning left over and over and over. It doesn't actually reserve a side for each user.

I hope he was joking...

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by ckohler:
If you cycle through a ton of active users the cube will just keep spinning left over and over and over. It doesn't actually reserve a side for each user.

Damn!

Let hope 10.4 has this feature.

[dr. zoidberg]

man, it would really rock if they would implement that rotating-cube-thing as a means of multiple desktop switching ...

[Geobunny]

Possibly just one of the reasons we're still looking at "end of the year".

[SMacTech]

I have fast-user switching with the cube animation on my dual 867 with a GeForce4 MX and 7B68.

[diamondsw]

Originally posted by Moonray:
The pictures of that animation are still on Apple's Panther page, so you all can hope.
Maybe there will be an option to turn it off in the final release to prevent people from getting dizzy.

Believe it or not, it actually did make me motion-sick.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by Moonray:
The pictures of that animation are still on Apple's Panther page, so you all can hope.
Maybe there will be an option to turn it off in the final release to prevent people from getting dizzy.

But there is a problem I see ... that cube turns only around a vertical axis so there is only space for four users ... they might extend it to six if they include a horizontal axis (though that would be problematic since you would be able to turn in an upside-down screen). Is there any workaround known so far to switch between more users?

-

I would think that the cube is symbolic more than anythinge else... It's like in keynote you can keep using the cube animation indeffinatly, as its not really a cube, just looks like one in the animation...

[Adam Betts]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Hey, here's a thought.

Could it have something to do with the fact that i'm running off an external monitor.?

There you go. Running it off an external monitor will eat Video RAM.

Less than 16MB (or 32, not sure) of Video RAM = Quartz Extreme disabled

[vod[k]a]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Damn!

Let hope 10.4 has this feature.

Mac OS X: Codename "Dreidel"

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Hey, here's a thought.

Could it have something to do with the fact that i'm running off an external monitor.?

Does your cursor have a shadow? (in other words, is QE enabled?)

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by vod[k]a:
Mac OS X: Codename "Dreidel"

Heh

[sosumi]

Interestingly, I've never had the cube work. Mind you, I've got the minimum requirements for success:

G4/400 AGP
Rage128Pro 16MB

Is there a way to tell if Quartz Extreme is running, other than if the cursor has a shadow? For example, in the System Profiler under software/extensions? Or in the Terminal somehow?

Sosumi

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Does your cursor have a shadow? (in other words, is QE enabled?)

Please do not perpetuate this myth.

The cursor shadow is NOT a reliable indicator of Quartz Extreme operation.

IIRC, any G4 will have the cursor shadow as well.

For hints on how to tell (and link to a little program that will tell you definitely), go here:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...quartz+extreme

-s*

[Sophus]

Originally posted by sosumi:
Interestingly, I've never had the cube work. Mind you, I've got the minimum requirements for success:

G4/400 AGP
Rage128Pro 16MB

Is there a way to tell if Quartz Extreme is running, other than if the cursor has a shadow? For example, in the System Profiler under software/extensions? Or in the Terminal somehow?

Sosumi

Quartz won't run with a Rage Pro. Minimum requirement is a Radeon and 32 MB memory (if memory serves me right). Anyway, could be the cube transistion can be done in SW rendering on a rage pro, but my guess is that the effect is disabled on graphic cards that don't use quartz.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Aaah! It's true. 7B68 has the animation disabled for some reason.

(Good thing I kept it off my laptop (where I use multiple logins), it would be hard to live without it).

It will probably be re-enabled in later builds.

Works fine my iMac, its not disabled.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by vod[k]a:
Mac OS X: Codename "Dreidel"

Wow, I actually learnt something.

http://www.cstone.net/~bry-back/holidayfun/dreidel.html

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Please do not perpetuate this myth.

The cursor shadow is NOT a reliable indicator of Quartz Extreme operation.

IIRC, any G4 will have the cursor shadow as well.

-s*

You are correct that the cursor shadow is not the indicator of QE, but a video card which is capable of larger cursor masking.

My cube doesn't have the cursor shadow that my dual867 has and doesn't support QE.

[tooki]

For the 18 gazillionth time:

The minimum requirements for Quartz Extreme are simply an AGP Radeon or nVidia graphics card. Since ALL Macs that shipped with Radeon or nVidia graphics shipped with 16MB or more of VRAM, this could also be considered a minimum requirement, but since you'll never encounter a Radeon with less than 16MB, it's a moot point. A PCI Radeon will not do. An ATI Rage Anything will not do, even if you had 128MB of RAM on it. Nor will your 3Dfx Voodoo 5000, nor you ProFormance 3, etc.

Note that Apple recommends -- but does not require -- 32MB or more of VRAM for optimum QE performance. You still have to have the AGP Radeon or nVidia.

tooki

[Phoenix1701]

A much simpler possibility is this: do you have different monitor resolutions or refresh rates set on one account than on the other? If so, that might be the problem. I've found sometimes the cube doesn't show up in this situation.

[- - e r i k - -]

G4 533, GeForce MX2, 1600x1200 90hz on both accounts.

Switch is instantaneous. No cube or anything, no screen flickering, no blue color, just desktop to desktop. It's amazingly fast actually. I can see why people would want to switch off the animation if this was an option.

[Nai no Kami]

Originally posted by Moonray:

But there is a problem I see ... that cube turns only around a vertical axis so there is only space for four users ... they might extend it to six if they include a horizontal axis (though that would be problematic since you would be able to turn in an upside-down screen). Is there any workaround known so far to switch between more users?

-

No need to worry. Windows Lonehorny will come with such effect on an ichosaedron with variable-axis rotation. The only drawback is that it is supposed to run on computers with variable-side poligonal monitors which will be suspended in mid-air through a series of magnets and superconductors, which will eliminate the hassle of having the screen upside-down or in any way slanted.
This next-generation monitors are not right now available because Microsloth engineers are figuring out how to concile the thelephone handset with the shape-shifting screens.
You should switch to Windows. It's on the way!

[maxelson]

I definitely have cube animation in 68- and have since 29. Have it in all of the three installs I have running. Odd.
Perhaps this is tied into another user setting?

[cdhostage]

Just rambling, but imagine a more-sided shape for user switching... Mmmm, G5s were just MADE for fisheyeing on the front facet of your 64-user Hope Diamond switch box.

[absmiths]

Originally posted by vod[k]a:
Mac OS X: Codename "Dreidel"

Pretty dang funny - even if it took me a second to get it...

[dopik]

Originally posted by bacchus:
Is it me or has the cube animation that occurred when you switched between user accounts in the first couple of builds of Panther disapeared from recent builds?

Can't seem to get it to happen and don't see a setting to toggle the animation.

Anyone?

I was at Apple Expo and the G5 I used could do the cube animation that occurred when you switched between user accounts. However, I do not know what version it was...

dopik

[rsh]

I've seen cube switch animation working fine on 7b68 with a dual gig g4, stock video card and 1.5gb RAM.

[SMacTech]

And it is still working in 7B74, but it acts weird the first time I use it. It is jittery and moves real slow. Use it again and it's smooth.

[Boondoggle]

No need to worry. Windows Lonehorny will come with such effect on an ichosaedron with variable-axis rotation. The only drawback is that it is supposed to run on computers with variable-side poligonal monitors which will be suspended in mid-air through a series of magnets and superconductors, which will eliminate the hassle of having the screen upside-down or in any way slanted.
This next-generation monitors are not right now available because Microsloth engineers are figuring out how to concile the thelephone handset with the shape-shifting screens.
You should switch to Windows. It's on the way!

That damn near made me laugh out loud.

[maxelson]

Installed 74 this AM on an 350 iMac, Ti 800, MDD Dual 867. Cube animation working on all of them. Still looking for broken-ness...

[dapilot]

I have 7b68 and it works fine only if the monitor is set to Millions of colors. Otherwise I don't get the cube effect.