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Mobile Mod · Sep 30, 2003, 10:43 PM

Hey guys, serious question here, and I need a response soon, sorry if that sounds pushy...

Anyways, heres the situation. I just bought a HP laserJet 1300n, and hooked it all up . I have it hooked into my WiFi router (linksys), and then i had it print the HP config page. It said it had an IP, and that appletalk was on and working. I went to my cube that is wired into the wetwork, installed the driver, and the thing saw the network printer through apple talk and al was good (it printed and everything). Then it ook my moms windows notebook (toshiba) and installed the driver and configured it using the installer and it can see the printer and print to it also. But, the problem lies in my 17" pb. It does have 10.2.8, so maybe thats the problem. However, I installed the driver and everything and when I go to add a printer and select the appletalk network nothing shows up in the list (with either the whole network, or just my zone). I was confused, so I looked at the test page and told my pb to print the IP which the laserjet had, and it printed! So, why wont my pb see the printer via apple talk, but it does print and such thru just the IP? I dont like having the IP solution becasue I know ill reset my router and then the IP's will be changed and ill have to reconfigure. Someone please help, this is very frustrating.

Thanks everyone!
Justin H

Scarpa · Sep 30, 2003, 10:54 PM

Just set the printers IP to a static address outside the range of the linksys dhcp scope.

You can figure out the address range used by dhcp on the administrator pages for your router.

That way your notebooks can still be left on dhcp but the printer address will never change.

Mobile Mod · Sep 30, 2003, 11:03 PM

Scarpa, that might work and if i have to, ill try it... but does anyone know how to make the apple talk thing work? or why its not working for that matter?

Justin H

Scarpa · Sep 30, 2003, 11:28 PM

Is Appletalk active on the Powerbook?

I use mine in a windows world and Appletalk has always been off. I don't remember it ever being on actually.

Mobile Mod · Oct 1, 2003, 06:53 AM

Appletalk is turned on for both units (the pb and the printer...).

Justin

aaanorton · Oct 1, 2003, 11:01 AM

Linksys does not bridge AppleTalk from wired to wireless on their routers. In fact, other than a few manufacturers (Apple, Asante and some D-Link), nobody does this. It's a shame really, cuz AT is so easy. Further, there's no legitimate reason to not bridge it. They probably figured that they could save money by not writing the code and subsequently not supporting Mac users. Of course, if they had just supported it in the first place, AS THEY SHOULD HAVE, their techs wouldn't have to explain to all the Mac users that AT isn't supported when it really should be... Dumb decision. I've heard that SOME of their new .11g routers support AT, in SOME situations, but the people who have these are afraid to upgrade their firmware for fear of this being "corrected". This is one of the reasons I'll never buy another Linksys product.

Mobile Mod · Oct 1, 2003, 06:50 PM

ok... thats very good to know. So, what wifi router should i buy? I need one that has both wired and wireless in the same unit and preferably for $100 or so... Obviously I would like it to support AT via the wireles... Any suggestions from you?

Justin

Mobile Mod · Oct 1, 2003, 06:56 PM

I just went to Asante's site and found this product... FR1004AL 802.11b Wireless Router w/ 4 Port 10/100 Switch. I can get it for like $90 with shipping... Will this let me do wireless with apple talk?

Justin

aaanorton · Oct 1, 2003, 08:57 PM

Yup, that'll do what you want. I used to use that same model with my AT'ed HP 6MP. I now use a Netgear MR814, though, cuz it has better range and plays better with iChat AV out of the box. It does NOT pass AT to/from wireless, but there are other ways around this. Especially since you have (and presumably paid for) a networkable printer (1300N), and can set up IP printing easily, you may want to consider a router with great range that is also inexpensive. You can pick up a MR814 for < 40 bucks. Of course, then you'll be right back where you are now: no AT support, but IP printing really is easy and this is otherwise a great router.

Mobile Mod · Oct 1, 2003, 09:30 PM

aaanorton, i think ill go ahead and buy the netgear router and save the money if it is possible to set up the IP printing. Can you refer me to something (or maybe you can write something up) that details what you have to do to set my 1300n to get a static IP address from the router?

If I dont go with the new router does anyone have instructions on how to give my 1300n a static IP on a linksys BEFW11S4?

Thanks everyone! Very helpful!!!

Justin

schk · Oct 1, 2003, 10:00 PM

I have a HP Laserjet 1200 which is very similar to your 1300n minus the built in networking and PPM I guess. I'm using an Iogear usb print server which supports Appletalk as well, but I'm printing from my new 12" PB via wireless so it doesn't find the printer via Appletalk. But that doesn't matter since IP printing works fine. Since it works with mine, you should have no problem setting up IP printing.

I assume the 1300n is just the printer plus a jetdirect print server, so that should have an administrative interface to set it up. So you should be able to tell it to use a static IP and not use DHCP. Otherwise, your router may have a feature to assign static IP's based on the MAC addresses. For that, you just select the MAC address of the print server and input what IP you want it to always be set to.

Mobile Mod · Oct 1, 2003, 10:11 PM

OK, i justlogged inot the printer via Safari (didnt know I could do that). I am in the networking tab and seee where it says IP address and such. Can I just change that to like 192.168.1.234 or something? Right now its 192.168.1.104. I really dont know a lot about networking... The Subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the defaul gateway is 192.168.1.1 . Any help?

Justin

schk · Oct 1, 2003, 10:20 PM

Does it mention DHCP anywhere? I assume if you are able to specify the IP address, it will stay that way permanently. As long as there's nothing like, automatically get IP address, or use DHCP to get IP address, you should be fine. Set the IP to whatever you will remember, so that 234 should be fine.

aaanorton · Oct 2, 2003, 04:44 PM

You might run into troubles later by changing the IP of the print server. I've never used one of these models, but if, say, your power goes out, it may very well revert back to it's default IP, which may or may not cause problems.
Instead, you could simply specify your router's DHCP pool to not include the printer's IP. This would be simple too and should stick through power outages.

For tips to get you started on IP printing, check out the Gimp-Print FAQs.