[monickels]

I've been using OS X since the beta stage and am quite happy with it. But I've got a few things I'd like to see. Join me in making a list of things you'd like to see on OS X as a platform, meaning not just from Apple, but from third-party developers as well.

Karaoke for iTunes. Support for karaoke formats: the most important are CD+G, MP3+G, MP3+G Zipped and KMF with MP3+G. Perhaps use the visualizer to display lyrics and animations.

XML Editor. I've tried them all (15 or so), including all the cross-platform Java-based editors, and all the X11 editors, and even took a stab at SGML editing in Emacs. The best of a bad lot is Oxygen, but not by much. They are slow, incomplete, error-prone, ugly, and not conducive to editing text so much as just looking at it. Few work at all with style sheets, and previews are slow. Collapsible tags? Live editing of previewed text? Color-coding? Speed? Macros? On Windows there's Xmetal, which is no prize-winner, but it is better than any XML editor on OS X. It's got a nice feature: tags are on, but appear as little tag-like icons, rather than hiding out in the text.

Tivo-like iTunes and iPod solution. I like AudioHijack and have it recording audio for me every night which I upload to the iPod every morning. But what I'd really like to see is a calendar-like solution which has current program listings of major online broadcasters which offer streams, so that I can simply click a few check boxes on the calendar and know that the show will be recorded for me. And of course, like Tivo, I want it to learn my preferences, make suggestions, and even record programs it thinks I might like. This is a big undertaking, I know, but it is a wishlist...

High-speed audio play. I'd like the iPod and iTunes to be able to play audio at faster than normal speeds. This and the item above may call for iTunes to be made more extensible via add-ons and plugins.

MAPI client. A biggy, and no secret.

SpamAssassin one-click installation on the client side. I've installed SpamAssassin many times on Mac mail servers. It's a pain in the butt. It's even more difficult to install it on my own computer, which is not a server, just to filter my mail by proxy before looking at it in Mail.app. I'd like to see Mail.app (or a plugin) offer SA integration.

Indeo codecs. OS 9 has them. Why not OS X? I know they're deprecated, but there's a lot of content out there which is Indeo-encoded and not going away.

What's on your wishlist?

[Superchicken]

iFlicks basically an iTunes like system for managing saved DVDs and what not. New entry level photoshop like program. A co-development between Apple and Adobe or something, basically give you level controls, some basic tools and what not but not all the features of Elements. And then distribute it as part of iLife.

iAudio, essentially apple could either build their own or just buy soundstudio. Not a huge thing since my iBook came with it.. but whatever.

Actually I'd love to see Apple start making something more entry level than stuff like FCE and then price it competitively they have the potential with apps in the 100 dollar range to make a ton of cash if they could work out the distribution well.

Uhh what else... uhh I'd love to see some of these third party developers actually doing stuff instead of apple doing everything! Photoshop seems to be the only app that Adobe is doing for the Mac and doing well. Macromedia has gone all PC happy and has been turning their software into crap in the process.

MSN support in iChat would be sweet.

Deeper intergeneration of apple software tittles.

[besson3c]

Originally posted by monickels:


Karaoke for iTunes. Support for karaoke formats: the most important are CD+G, MP3+G, MP3+G Zipped and KMF with MP3+G. Perhaps use the visualizer to display lyrics and animations.

In my opinion, it would be pretty tacky of Apple to include this with iTunes (and a waste of development effort). Do you think many people will be singing along with their iTunes playlists?

This is much better for a third party to tackle. Versiontracker brings up 3 potential titles that may handle this task.

Tivo-like iTunes and iPod solution. I like AudioHijack and have it recording audio for me every night which I upload to the iPod every morning. But what I'd really like to see is a calendar-like solution which has current program listings of major online broadcasters which offer streams, so that I can simply click a few check boxes on the calendar and know that the show will be recorded for me. And of course, like Tivo, I want it to learn my preferences, make suggestions, and even record programs it thinks I might like. This is a big undertaking, I know, but it is a wishlist...

This sounds like a licensing/copywrite nightmare. I don't know how TiVO circumvents these issues (or if there are issues) but again, this sounds like something for a third-party.

High-speed audio play. I'd like the iPod and iTunes to be able to play audio at faster than normal speeds. This and the item above may call for iTunes to be made more extensible via add-ons and plugins.

May I ask why?

MAPI client. A biggy, and no secret.

I don't think the world is interested in another propietary groupware environment. Microsoft already has a monopoly over this market with Exchange. Any efforts would *have* to be compatible with Exchange to be successful, and I don't see MS allowing this yet.

It appears as if Microsoft is moving away from MAPI anyway, in favor of IMAP. If Entourage weren't designed only for a single-server Exchange environment, it would work well. I'm sure Microsoft is working on addressing this. When they do, there will be little room for competition.

SpamAssassin one-click installation on the client side. I've installed SpamAssassin many times on Mac mail servers. It's a pain in the butt. It's even more difficult to install it on my own computer, which is not a server, just to filter my mail by proxy before looking at it in Mail.app. I'd like to see Mail.app (or a plugin) offer SA integration.

Why not just improve upon Mail's existing junk mail filters? How does SpamAssassin differ?

What's on your wishlist?

- group sharing/editing of iCal calendars
- built in sFTP support within the Finder
- the ability to connect to muliple mount points at the same time on the same machine. Netatalk support to provide the same functionality
- smart playlist-type folders in the Finder
- ARA provided within the OS, terminal services
- Office competitor, Office compatible file formats
- ability to run Windows apps (now that we have really happening hardware, we should be able to run 9x and NT at pretty decent speeds, I would think)
- roaming profiles support via WebDAV

[besson3c]

Originally posted by Superchic[k]en:
iFlicks basically an iTunes like system for managing saved DVDs and what not.

What do you mean by "saved DVDs"? Pirated DVDs?

Deeper intergeneration of apple software tittles.

Deeper intergeneration? What's that?

Assuming you mean intergration, could you be more specific?

[wataru]

Originally posted by Superchic[k]en:
New entry level photoshop like program. A co-development between Apple and Adobe or something, basically give you level controls, some basic tools and what not but not all the features of Elements.

If Graphic Converter or Photoshop Elements don't do this for you already, then I'm not sure anything ever will.

Originally posted by besson3c:
Deeper intergeneration? What's that?

Superchic[k]en's vocabulary has outpaced his spelling ability now that he's at college.

[Millennium]

Originally posted by monickels:
Indeo codecs. OS 9 has them. Why not OS X? I know they're deprecated, but there's a lot of content out there which is Indeo-encoded and not going away.

The problem is that Ligos, the company which owns Indeo, is no longer developing it for any platform, not even Windows. Even the OS9 codecs had not been updated in many years. The Windows versions still work there simply because of Windows' backward-compatibility routines, a luxury that Apple could not afford when fundamentally switching architectures.

However, you will be pleased to know that OS9's QuickTime Player runs fine in Classic mode, and you can play Indeo videos with that. Not great, but unless Ligos Open-Sources Indeo it is probably the best we will ever get.

There is one minor hope. There is a program for X11 called XAnim. It is Open-Source, but Ligos agreed to let its developer port the codecs to it, provided that those codecs stayed closed. Since the codecs are closed, they obviously cannot be ported to OSX, but it is possible that a Mac developer might be able to persuade Ligos to enter into a similar agreement. However, that is probably the only way we will ever see the codec on OSX.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by monickels:
Karaoke for iTunes. Support for karaoke formats: the most important are CD+G, MP3+G, MP3+G Zipped and KMF with MP3+G. Perhaps use the visualizer to display lyrics and animations.

OMG, thats one of the most tacky ideas ive ever come across, this feature would seriously damage sales of Apple products.

Apple sells cool products for cool people, Karaoke is one the saddest pastimes available, its for loosers, pure and simple.

What next iTrainspotter? Or an iPedophile junior school compedium with toilet cams.

all bad ideas.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by Superchic[k]en:
iFlicks basically an iTunes like system for managing saved DVDs and what not. New entry level photoshop like program. A co-development between Apple and Adobe or something, basically give you level controls, some basic tools and what not but not all the features of Elements. And then distribute it as part of iLife.

iAudio, essentially apple could either build their own or just buy soundstudio. Not a huge thing since my iBook came with it.. but whatever.

Actually I'd love to see Apple start making something more entry level than stuff like FCE and then price it competitively they have the potential with apps in the 100 dollar range to make a ton of cash if they could work out the distribution well.

Uhh what else... uhh I'd love to see some of these third party developers actually doing stuff instead of apple doing everything! Photoshop seems to be the only app that Adobe is doing for the Mac and doing well. Macromedia has gone all PC happy and has been turning their software into crap in the process.

MSN support in iChat would be sweet.

Deeper intergeneration of apple software tittles.

Super Chicken, your retarded grasp of software once again astounds me.

MSN is a good idea tough.

[LeeG]

Does anyone else think Session burn in the finder is LONG-overdue?

Where is it?


Lee

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by LeeG:
Does anyone else think Session burn in the finder is LONG-overdue?

Where is it?


Lee

Unfortunatly still in Disk Utility.

[christor]

I've been working a little bit on a Tivo-like ipod solution, Streamers. It's not close to perfect, but it does the job I had in mind.
Here's a screenshot of streamers 2: http://homepage.mac.com/christianturner/streamers2.jpg
The download includes the source, which is public domain. So I'd love it if someone else could use/improve on this.

Here's the info from another post:

I've posted the latest version of Streamers, which automates the process of making RealOne recordings, converting them to mp3 or mp4 and importing them into iTunes. It also allows you to keep a library of shows, so you can record the latest Car Talk stream without having to hunt down the URL everytime. The new version uses iCal to allow you to schedule recordings on a one-time, weekly, or monthly basis. The upshot is that, using wiretap, you have something a bit like a vcr with a timer - but more like tivo in that you can record shows by name once you have configured them. I've posted it as a beta, so let me know of any issues you encounter.
http://homepage.mac.com/christiantur...rs2.0b1.dmg.gz

The original Streamers that does not allow scheduling of recordings is still available at: http://homepage.mac.com/christiantur...reamers.dmg.gz

Any troubles with these urls, just go to: http://homepage.mac.com/christianturner/
and click the link.

[waffffffle]

Originally posted by besson3c:
I don't think the world is interested in another propietary groupware environment. Microsoft already has a monopoly over this market with Exchange. Any efforts would *have* to be compatible with Exchange to be successful, and I don't see MS allowing this yet.

It appears as if Microsoft is moving away from MAPI anyway, in favor of IMAP. If Entourage weren't designed only for a single-server Exchange environment, it would work well. I'm sure Microsoft is working on addressing this. When they do, there will be little room for competition.

A full featured Exchange client that supports all versions of Exchange is necessary. I worked at an office that has IMAP turned off and you can only use Outlook to access the server. My university (which thankfully only uses Exchange for administrative computers) "can't" turn on IMAP for one reason or another. We need Mail.app/iCal to fully support Exchange and everything that goes with it (MAPI).

[besson3c]

Originally posted by waffffffle:
A full featured Exchange client that supports all versions of Exchange is necessary. I worked at an office that has IMAP turned off and you can only use Outlook to access the server. My university (which thankfully only uses Exchange for administrative computers) "can't" turn on IMAP for one reason or another. We need Mail.app/iCal to fully support Exchange and everything that goes with it (MAPI).

I hear you, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If Microsoft is moving away from MAPI in favor if IMAP, I wouldn't except them to permit anybody else to do what they decided not to. Or something.

[yukon]

yeah, not having Indeo IV32 and IV50 is a pain. i've read that it's fundamentally different from the normal MPEG based codecs, so reverse-engineering it is quite the task....as well as IV50 being a complete rewrite. i've read that some have tried, but given up too soon. I'm sure we'll have it someday, but not for a while. this isn't apple's fault.

I should just convert all of the files i have in those codecs to divx or something, and distribute them (the non-copyrighted ones, of course). I'm wondering if it's possible to make a MacOS X program that can use old quicktime codecs ;-)

[Judge_Fire]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
Karaoke is one the saddest pastimes available, its for loosers, pure and simple.

Stay with the flow. Karaoke was 'japan-early-adopter-cool', then mainstream 'fun', then uncool, then it became instant-retro cool for a brief moment, followed by definitely not cool, then 'kinda cool though, isn't it, especially when drunk'. It has a future up there with sumo suits and velcro human darts.

Apple, of course, has supported midi/text- based karaoke files in QuickTime since version 3.

Here, let Barbra show you.

J

[Xeo]

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
OMG, thats one of the most tacky ideas ive ever come across, this feature would seriously damage sales of Apple products.

Apple sells cool products for cool people, Karaoke is one the saddest pastimes available, its for loosers, pure and simple.

What next iTrainspotter? Or an iPedophile junior school compedium with toilet cams.

all bad ideas.

I guess Japan is filled with "loosers" then. Not that any more Japanese people would want karaoke in iTunes any more than us, but it's still quite popular there.

[dharknes]

Originally posted by waffffffle:
A full featured Exchange client that supports all versions of Exchange is necessary. I worked at an office that has IMAP turned off and you can only use Outlook to access the server. My university (which thankfully only uses Exchange for administrative computers) "can't" turn on IMAP for one reason or another. We need Mail.app/iCal to fully support Exchange and everything that goes with it (MAPI).

What university doesn't use imap? I can almost understand why a company wouldn't turn on imap support in exchange. (The IT department/Admins might have the IQ of a door nob).

But I can't even begin to under why a university wouldn't. The bandwidth saving alone be enough to justify it. Not to mention that a university should absolutely not use any propriety technology. It's bad enough that most require students to use Word and Excel.

[OwlBoy]

Originally posted by Judge_Fire:

Apple, of course, has supported midi/text- based karaoke files in QuickTime since version 3.

Here, let Barbra show you.

J

Hahahahha.

-Owl

[monickels]

Karaoke is tacky? For losers? What? There's a huge underground community on the Internet of people trading karaoke music files, legal or not. We're talking hundreds of thousands of users at least. What that shows is that there's a market for it. Hell, you can buy karaoke players in the stores.

And if karaoke is for losers, then paint a big red L on my forehead: in the last 10 days, I've been to four different bars for karaoke. It's hardly a trend, or even retro cool here in New York City: it never went away, like sushi didn't, like tapas bars didn't, like inline skating didn't, like Broadway theatre didn't, like hip-hop didn't, like breakdancing didn't. It's a part of our cultural fabric now.

I usually find that people who rip on karaoke have fear of public performance which manifests itself as a false pride. The anti-karaoke weaklings claim it would be beneath their dignity.

I also find that outside of the United States, more people love karaoke because they do not have the cultural inhibitions which make them afraid to expose themselves to ridicule. They actually sing at parties, in bars, in restaurants. Next time you're at a birthday party in the States and people starting singing "Happy Birthday," look around the room. Half the people won't sing even *that* simple song, when their voices would be lost among all the others, even for the minute it takes, and for free. That's a spectacular form of neurosis.

It took me two songs to get over the fear of performing in public. I'm not a good singer. But we have fun, and people loosen up, and they break through their shells, and the stresses of the work-week fade away.

None of the so-called solutions on Versiontracker play karaoke file formats. They either strip the vocal ranges out to make vocal-less music files, or they play so-called Quicktime karaoke files which are not standard, common or useful.

Re: iTivo: This sounds like a licensing/copywrite nightmare. I don't know how TiVO circumvents these issues (or if there are issues) but again, this sounds like something for a third-party.

Sure stopped MP3, didn't it? Sure stopped Tivo, didn't it? Sure stopped VCRs, tape recorders and CD burning, didn't it?

I'll tell you why I want it: I listen to a lot of radio from the Internet. Right now I have automatically recorded by AudioHijack every night three hours of the BBC, two hours of Radio France International, on Sundays two hours of Radio National in Australia, and on Saturday early morning, three hours of a live open mic hip-hop show from WBAI here in New York City. In the morning, I dump them on my iPod, listen to them on the way to and from work, and while I work (since streaming audio is forbidden on the company network at my new job). But it's a huge hassle to pick out just the programs I want. I hate it that 15 minutes of my BBC recording are taken up by the soap opera Westway when all I really want is international news. I'd like my recording choices to be more granular. I'll look at the project mentioned above and see how it stacks up. Could be awesome.

It appears as if Microsoft is moving away from MAPI anyway, in favor of IMAP. If Entourage weren't designed only for a single-server Exchange environment, it would work well. I'm sure Microsoft is working on addressing this. When they do, there will be little room for competition.

Thank you Oh Great Prognosticator for your baloney. I've got news for you: MAPI is here until the current servers die, because people aren't jumping on the latest-and-greatest Microsoft releases. I've only just left 12 years in tech support, working for dozens of companies, running my own client list and working as a contractor: nobody's spending money right now. It's either work with the Exchange server, run Outlook in Classic, or use web access.

I wish had your kind of faith and patience in Microsoft. My life would be much more relaxed. In my opinion, the Entourage update that supposedly brought us Exchange compatibility was a sham, a fakeout, a series of lies followed by unfulfilled promises.

Why not just improve upon Mail's existing junk mail filters? How does SpamAssassin differ?

SpamAssassin, in the two server-side implementations that I currently manage, catches 99.99% of our spam. This is in part due to a good whitelist, but it's primarily because of SA's complex rule sets, which are even better in 2.60, and because it implements Bayesian algorithms rather well. It doesn't rely *only* on Bayesian, but uses rules, pattern-matching and RBLs.

I concur on the desire for sftp in the finder. I do use it in the terminal, but it's a pain.

The ability to run Windows apps? That would be nice. It would mean hardware upgrade for me, but if we could get something like the way X11 runs now, I would be satisfied. Rootless Windows. Mind, I don't think it will ever happen, but wishing is free...

[besson3c]

Originally posted by monickels:

Thank you Oh Great Prognosticator for your baloney. I've got news for you: MAPI is here until the current servers die, because people aren't jumping on the latest-and-greatest Microsoft releases. I've only just left 12 years in tech support, working for dozens of companies, running my own client list and working as a contractor: nobody's spending money right now. It's either work with the Exchange server, run Outlook in Classic, or use web access.

I wish had your kind of faith and patience in Microsoft. My life would be much more relaxed. In my opinion, the Entourage update that supposedly brought us Exchange compatibility was a sham, a fakeout, a series of lies followed by unfulfilled promises.

I was not claiming that MAPI is old news or no longer necessary. I'm saying that Microsoft holds the cards here. They themselves are moving away from MAPI, so I doubt that they will open things up for somebody else to do this.

[waffffffle]

Originally posted by dharknes:
What university doesn't use imap? I can almost understand why a company wouldn't turn on imap support in exchange. (The IT department/Admins might have the IQ of a door nob).

But I can't even begin to under why a university wouldn't. The bandwidth saving alone be enough to justify it. Not to mention that a university should absolutely not use any propriety technology. It's bad enough that most require students to use Word and Excel.

Princeton University started Exchange for administration and faculty last year. Its completely optional and costs extra. Everyone else on campus uses the regular iPlanet IMAP email server. For some reason they claim that they cannot turn on IMAP on the Exchange server. This has caused headaches for Mac-using faculty that need to use exchange for the group calendaring feature. Apple isn't going to win this by creating their own server product, they need their clients to be 100% compatible with what's out there, and in most cases it's a Microsoft Exchange server.

Ximian Evolution has a MAPI client feature, but it costs money.

[blackbird_1.0]

my wishlist:

a totally revamped quicktime, resembling itunes and the finder

make mail resemble a newly revamped qucktime, itunes, and finder

tabbed/more customizable dock

at least some themes/accents for customization, maybe some for the dock especially.

support for the ati rageIIc / or video watchamacallit for original iMac Rev. A.

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I guess Japan is filled with "loosers" then. Not that any more Japanese people would want karaoke in iTunes any more than us, but it's still quite popular there.

Perhaps I was a bit harsh, I live in China where Karaoke (KTV) is very popular.

99% of Karaoke bars in China are also brothels, I suspect the same goes for japan.

Parents are so strict that the kids need somewhere they can go to drink, take drugs and have sex in private rooms. In the west you can get away with this in your bedroom, but not in China.

Trust me, very little singing goes on.

[Graymalkin]

Originally posted by blackbird_1.0:
(snip)
support for the ati rageIIc / or video watchamacallit for original iMac Rev. A.

Supported was added for the Rage LT Pro in the 10.2.5 update of Jaguar. The driver doesn't add any Quartz Extreme support obviously but it does have a huge improvement over the previous unaccelerated framebuffer driver. My old Lombard had the same chip as the iMac and it gained a very noticeable graphics boost after I updated to 10.2.5.

For my wishlist I would like:

An iCal API like the AddressBook framework.
OpenGL2 support.
Support for a wider range of phones in iSync.
Native SDL framework and support for the project.
Power management API.
Cocoa AppleWorks 7 with Office XP and OpenOffice support.
Faster updates to Java.
Sherlock that works.
Old Mac chime.
Quack and Wild Eep.

[stew]

What /me wants:

* the ability to change the system's default font face without having to use 3rd party hacks
* the button to turn off eye candy
* hardware that ships with a second mouse button
* better documentation for CoreAudio
* usable ftp in the Finder
* the freedom to not run the Dock

[RooneyX]

x86 emulation, an OSX version of Wine and Direct X emulation that allows PC games to run and use hardware acceleration.

[besson3c]

Originally posted by stew:
What /me wants:

* the ability to change the system's default font face without having to use 3rd party hacks
* the button to turn off eye candy
* hardware that ships with a second mouse button
* better documentation for CoreAudio
* usable ftp in the Finder
* the freedom to not run the Dock

At the risk of repeating myself, I still think it is wise for Apple to *not* support FTP. Considering its effort to make OS X a secure OS with stuff like Filevault, why would they want people sending their password in plain text? The second somebody gets hacked into, the media would have a field day.

[PrettyBoyClone]

Roaming profiles via rendevouz

User profile on ipod

Multiple libs in iPhoto and iTunes (like iCal)

Backup system for non .mac users

Built-in bluetooth remote functions. (a la Romeo or Salling clicker)

Built-in phone-integration. Imaging a bluetooth headset combined with your modemport, iChat and of course adress book. (this could even double as voicemail). Could even be done with an optional usb handset.

Some kind of of consumer tv/video app. -and of course the hardware to go with that. Full videoPod integration and a tuner in every mac would be perfect.

CVS functions in contextual menus (as part of dev tools)

[stew]

Originally posted by besson3c:
At the risk of repeating myself, I still think it is wise for Apple to *not* support FTP. Considering its effort to make OS X a secure OS with stuff like Filevault, why would they want people sending their password in plain text? The second somebody gets hacked into, the media would have a field day.

In that case, Apple would need to discontinue their .mac email service and maybe the iDisk service too. It's been a while since I had a .mac account, but from what I remember it was using unencrypted IMAP and SMTP for mail transfer.

[besson3c]

Originally posted by stew:
In that case, Apple would need to discontinue their .mac email service and maybe the iDisk service too. It's been a while since I had a .mac account, but from what I remember it was using unencrypted IMAP and SMTP for mail transfer.

You have a point there...

[gralem]

Originally posted by besson3c:
RE: The AduioHijack/iPod software...

This sounds like a licensing/copywrite nightmare. I don't know how TiVO circumvents these issues (or if there are issues) but again, this sounds like something for a third-party.

Ever hear of fair-use? Is it legal for me to tape a radio show on my "hi-fi", and then pop that cassette in my car for listening later on? Of course! Same would be true to rip a public audio stream to mp3, then put on iPod. True, this may be better for a third-party solution, but it is not outside the scope of fair use.

Originally posted by besson3c:
RE: The high-speed audio play-back

May I ask why?

If the radio show record on the "hi-fi" was a talk show, you can actually listen to the audio sped-up considerably and still understand the full context. This allows you to listen to a 1-hour show in like 40 minutes. The same would be true of Audible files.


---gralem

[Phanguye]

Originally posted by gralem:
Ever hear of fair-use? Is it legal for me to tape a radio show on my "hi-fi", and then pop that cassette in my car for listening later on? Of course!

that is because when you purchase a cassette a small portion of the money goes towards royalties for record companies... so not so much with an all digital format, it is not fair use to record an mp3 of Britney Spears new hit off the radio is it?

[Amorph]

Originally posted by Phanguye:
that is because when you purchase a cassette a small portion of the money goes towards royalties for record companies.

Wrong. At least in the US.

The US Supreme Court ruled that taping was fair use in Sony vs. Universal because it had a valid non-infringing use. Copyright law, until very recently, allowed you to make as many copies as you wanted for your own use. What it prohibited was unauthorized publication, a.k.a piracy.

The movie industry pushed the Audio Home Recording Act through after that ruling in order to add tape sales to their existing revenue streams (which shot upward with the advent of the VCR), and to attempt to restrict the extent of the rights established by the court (for example, if you've ever had more than 8 people over to see a movie at your house, that's a public viewing and you owe royalties - according to the AHRA).

The idea that every copy represents a lost sale is a stupid, poisonous, factually untenable fallacy in every instance.