[Jaw3000]

With what build did Apple remove Panther's new "fade" effect when switching preference panes and revert to the old one? Both 7B80 and 7B85 appearently use the old effect.

Or is it still in Panther, and it's been switched to Quartz Extreme only (which I don't have)?

I really like the fade effect, and think it was a mistake to have removed it. I guess it was removed becouse of speed, but I think it seems faster than the old effect.

BTW, three odd questions:
1. Where on the HD (in what file) is the above animation stored? Is it possible for the current animation to be replaced with the fade effect by replacing/editing the file? Could the effect still be in the OS, just hidden (like the scale effect was with 10.0), requiring editing to turn it on?

2. Is there any way to enable Quartz Extreme on a non-Quartz Extreme system? Specifically, a dual USB iBook (May 2001) with an ATI Rage Mobility 128 GPU with 8MB SDRAM?

3. Is there a list anywhere (and screenshots/movies) of the supposed new animations in 7B80 (or 7B81) and above?

Thanks!

[Vader’s Pinch of Death]

Originally posted by Jaw3000:

2. Is there any way to enable Quartz Extreme on a non-Quartz Extreme system? Specifically, a dual USB iBook (May 2001) with an ATI Rage Mobility 128 GPU with 8MB SDRAM?

You'd think Apple would turn it on for you if that was the case wouldn't you?

[Liquidity X]

yes the fade is in there. and yes u can turn on QE on yer ibook but its acully slower with it turned on. look on Version Tracker there are several option for turning it on there.

[Jaw3000]

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
yes the fade is in there and yes u can turn on QE on yer ibook but its acully slower with it turned on. look on Version Tracker there are several option for turning it on there.

Any idea where or how to re-enable it (when Panther is released, of course)?

Also, I looked on Version Tracker and can only find a checker to tell you if QE is on (which it's not) and a tool to enable it on a PCI card. Any idea how to enable QE? And can yo even enable it on a Rage 128 Mobility 8MB or do you have to have a Radeon?

Thanks!

[- - e r i k - -]

Fade effect works fine in 7B80 on my 17" PB.

[fourstarcltv]

Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Fade effect works fine in 7B80 on my 17" PB.

works here also. dual g4 450 running 7b85.

[Jaw3000]

Originally posted by fourstarcltv:
works here also. dual g4 450 running 7b85.

Hmm. Are you using Quartz Extreme? I would assume that the 17" PB is.

My guess is that Apple has now made it Quartz Extreme only, as I am running a dual USB iBook w/ Rage Mobility 128 which can't run QE. I wonder why Apple would had made it QE only, since it worked fine for me and was actually faster than the old effect which is in-use again.

From what I've read, it's impossible to enable QE on a 8MB GPU. If I'm wrong or any one else has succesfully enabled it on a May 2001 iBook (or Rage 128), please let me know how to do it!

BTW, does anyone know of a list of the new animations in 7B80 (maybe with screenshots or videos)?

Thanks!

[Xeo]

My pref panes fade from one to the other when switching between them. Is that what you're talking about? This is on a first generation dual-USB iBook that doesn't support QE (and I haven't enabled it).

[Catfish_Man]

Originally posted by Jaw3000:
Any idea where or how to re-enable it (when Panther is released, of course)?

Also, I looked on Version Tracker and can only find a checker to tell you if QE is on (which it's not) and a tool to enable it on a PCI card. Any idea how to enable QE? And can yo even enable it on a Rage 128 Mobility 8MB or do you have to have a Radeon?

Thanks!

No, the Rage 128 series cannot support QE.

[RAILhead]

Originally posted by Jaw3000:
With what build did Apple remove Panther's new "fade" effect when switching preference panes and revert to the old one? Both 7B80 and 7B85 appearently use the old effect.

One thing I've noticed in 7B85, is that the fade exists with the System Preferences, but if you open the Finder preferences and swith panes, there's no animation whatsoever -- even the smooth resizing we've seen since 10.1 is gone.

I can't nail-down what it is, as Carbon apps still behave as they should, as do all the Cocoa apps I've played with.



Maury

[zachs]

Originally posted by RAILhead:
One thing I've noticed in 7B85, is that the fade exists with the System Preferences, but if you open the Finder preferences and swith panes, there's no animation whatsoever -- even the smooth resizing we've seen since 10.1 is gone.

I can't nail-down what it is, as Carbon apps still behave as they should, as do all the Cocoa apps I've played with.



Maury

It's a matter of choice (on Apple's part, that is). Ie, it's hard-coded. I wish that they would make that behavior consistant, though.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally posted by zachs:
It's a matter of choice (on Apple's part, that is). Ie, it's hard-coded. I wish that they would make that behavior consistant, though.

Yup. Only System Preferences has the smooth resizing + fade, finder has nothing and all other apps use smooth resizing only.

[biscuit]

*sigh*

All this sloppiness. I'd gladly wait until December 31st if Apple nailed all these annoyances and inconsistencies in Panther.

BTW, the Rage 128 doesn't do some of the functions required by QE, so it'll never work on our card

biscuit