[Fellow2000]

I was wondering if there was such thing as a hack or an app that would allow the maximize button to act as it does in windows and take up the whole screen.

This is by far the most annoying thing about MacOS to me and I would really like to find a way to get it to do what I want.

Thank you

[gorickey]

Not that I know of; however, does it really take very long to drag the window full screen to your desired position?

[Phoenix1701]

Try holding down Option while clicking the zoom widget. This doesn't work in all applications, but it works in most well-behaved ones (OmniWeb, for instance).

[- - e r i k - -]

Do you like your windows to have a lot of wasted space

[lookmark]

Originally posted by Phoenix1701:
Try holding down Option while clicking the zoom widget. This doesn't work in all applications, but it works in most well-behaved ones (OmniWeb, for instance).

Yeah, this behavior really should be recommended in the AHIG and made standard by developers across all apps.

[Fellow2000]

gorickey - yes it does take that long. Too long. And on top of that, there is no way to make sure that it is absolutly pixel perfect against the edges.

Phoenix - Thank you for the advice, I guess this will have to do for now until I can come accross a better solution.

erik - no I don't. Why do you ask? If this was supposed to be implying that because I want a window full screen, it is a waste of space, then you could have just said that. Personally, I like to build web sites with fluid content. So when MacOS just decides on it's own how wide the window should be, I don't like it, too small. I personally like having the full screen to read articles and the like.

Please if anyone knows of anything that could help.... this is one aspect that is making me hesitate to buy a powerbook. I use full screen windows all the time because I like it that way, and I would really like the same thing on Mac OS.

[gorickey]

I don't get it, if you drag the window to your desired size, close the application, and re-launch the app....doesn't your window position stay the way you left it?

[lookmark]

Reading articles.... online, in Safari? In Word? As PDF documents? TextEdit RTF? All of the above?

And is the Zoom widget (green button) not working for you in any of the above cases? It should zoom the page to width and height of the content that the page contains. Pressing again zooms back to the last window positiion.

I don't find Mac users use the Zoom button all that much, in my experience, but it is there.

[calepeeples]

Copy this javascript and paste it into a new bookmark.

javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.a vailWidth,screen.availHeight);

Hope this helps.

[nica]

For full screen in safari use Saft Full screen for Safari it works great for
full screen adjustments (pixel perfect) and for HTML slide show presentations.

[CAM]

I very much agree with the original post.

This is feedback I recently sent Apple:

While large, hi-res displays allow great flexibility for managing windows, I feel we need additional window functions to make them truly efficient. If we have to move windows around now, we have much farther to move them! A few things I think might help:

• Let the user automatically expand windows to full screen (while respecting the dock) by clicking the zoom widget while holding a modifier key (obviously, some applications do this, I would love to see them all do it)

• Let the user save a window’s specific size / position / monitor and be able to recall that exact same size / position / monitor by clicking the zoom widget while holding a modifier key (similar to the “save window size” function in OmniWeb)

• Let the user expand windows from the CENTER by dragging the zoom widget while holding a modifier key

• Let the user automatically snap windows tangent to other windows by moving the window while holding a modifier key

• Let the drawers of fully expanded windows automatically resize the parent window when deployed and return the window to its original position when closed

• Let windows always remember their size / position / monitor, even after rebooting.

• All of the above would ESPECIALLY apply to Finder windows :–)

• Allow icons in the dock to be magnified on an individual basis through the contextual menu (I can minimize a QuickTime movie to the dock and see it while working but it is too small because my dock is quite full. Imagine if I could magnify just that one window so that I could actually see the movie while working)

EDIT: It doesn't matter if some people think that expanding a window to full screen is a "waste of space". What matters is that it exists as an option for those that prefer it. The overarching idea is that the user should have the sense that he / she can get their windows exactly where they want them as quickly and effortlessly as possible. Being able to recall a custom window size/position (like OmniWeb) would go a long way in creating that sense. Snapping a window to full screen should absolutely be an option.

[bracken]

Originally posted by gorickey:
I don't get it, if you drag the window to your desired size, close the application, and re-launch the app....doesn't your window position stay the way you left it?

Too much time on your hands?

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by calepeeples:
Copy this javascript and paste it into a new bookmark.

javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.a vailWidth,screen.availHeight);

Hope this helps.

That my friend is a very cool tip...

[Hop Pocket]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
That my friend is a very cool tip...

I agree... Thanks! Too bad you can't get it to go right back to the dimensions it held previously, but great none the less

[calepeeples]

... I just created another script/bookmarklet that resizes the window back the way I like it.

I call it "Fit":
javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.a vailWidth-200,screen.availHeight-16)

I think http://www.bookmarklets.com is where I found these (credit where credit is due).

Edit: thanks to Safari's bookmark toolbar, neither tip is too far away.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by calepeeples:
... I just created another script/bookmarklet that resizes the window back the way I like it.

I call it "Fit":
javascript:self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.a vailWidth-200,screen.availHeight-16)

I think http://www.bookmarklets.com is where I found these (credit where credit is due).

Interesting... I'm going to have to check that place out...

[gorickey]

Originally posted by bracken:
Too much time on your hands?

Haha, well done!

[Fellow2000]

Would there be something possible that I could reverse the effect, or switch the function so that...

when i click on the zoom widget, it automatically goes full screen, but if I click on the zoom widget with the option key held down, it will just zoom?