[Eug]

I find the top left is bad because of the Apple and application menu, and the top right is bad because of fast user switching.

For me, the best would be lower left for "All Windows" and lower right for "Desktop".

[melman101]

I do not use Expose Hot Corners, however I do have an external USB mouse. It's a logitech and i use this third button that used to do nothing for Expose All Windows, and the scroll wheel pressed in for Expose App Window

Mel

[schalliol]

Yeah, I don't use them, I use the Fkeys and my Kensington Turbo Mouse Optical. I don't like the corners because it's not easily moveable. It's like it sticks, when you go up there and it's slow to come back if you don't want to be there and go on accident.

[Spheric Harlot]

Upper left: All windows
Upper right: Application windows
Lower right: Desktop

Perfect for me (them function keys' just to small & outta the way for me on my Powerbook).

-s*

[crouchingtiger]

I thought I'd hate the active corners but it turns out that's just about the only way I use Expose now.

I also thought I'd never use the "show desktop" feature, but it's the one I use the most now.

The other day, I sent a file to a friend in iChat -- I used Expose to find a finder window, found the file I needed, "picked up" the file with the mouse, Exposed to find the iChat Buddy list -- after a second of holding the file over the miniature buddy list window expose zoomed me back into it, and dropped the file on the right user name. Cool.

I have lower left set to desktop, upper right for App, lower right for all windows.

[eevyl]

No hot corners here.

When using my PB in my desk, I use the scroll wheel button of my Kensington Pocket Mouse Pro, this way:

Clic: full exposé
Command-clic: front app exposé
Option-clic: show desktop

When on the road, I use the function keys, F9, F10 and F11.

I may try the hot corners however...

[Simon]

For myself I'd like the active corners most. The f-keys are far to far away for me.

But, I was already using two active corners for screensaver now and screensaver never. Now with Expose I need an additional corner.

I hope something better will come to my mind than buying a pentagonal screen...

[michaelb]

These work well for me:

Bottom right corner - All Windows (main one I use)
Bottom left corner - Desktop

Don't like using the upper right corner as I often drop down the time menu to see the date (okay, I'm sad). And I don't like the upper left corner as I can overshoot the Apple menu. I hate the idea of function keys, they remind me of using "menus" in DOS programs in the 80s.

Mousing down to the bottom right corner to grab a window is fast becoming a reflex action!

[dfiler]

Interesting...

At first I used the lower left for all-windows and lower right for the show-desktop. However, it's become apparent that I now access the dock more often then the menu bar. For menu commands, I almost always use keyboard shortcuts or contextual menus. When the lower corners were active, I found myself accidentally triggering expose. Now that I've switched it to the upper corners, accidental expose invocation is less frequent.

Oh... and I've already witnessed expose create one switcher. It immediately differentiates the mac more significantly than we've seen in years.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by dfiler:
Oh... and I've already witnessed expose create one switcher. It immediately differentiates the mac more significantly than we've seen in years.

Indeed.

If the word weren't so tired, it would truly be the most appropriate: Exposé is revolutionary.

That is to say, I've seen nothing like it before, and it has changed the way I interact with my machine more than anything else since the mouse.

-s*

[Eug]

I've seen nothing like it before, and it has changed the way I interact with my machine more than anything else since the mouse.

Yup. Besides the Unix-ness of OS X, Expose is the ONLY feature that stands out to hard core non-Mac guys when I show Panther to them.

Bottom right corner - All Windows (main one I use)
Bottom left corner - Desktop

Exact opposite of what I use. Apple probably should have set some hot corner defaults. ie. Ones that you could change, but a default nonetheless for others to get used to. I rarely use function keys, esp. for something I'd want to use as often as Expose.

[kcmac]

This is the one feature I look forward to trying the most in Panther. I tend to use the mouse more than hotkeys so I will be using the corners.

[schalliol]

I find it quite interesting that people aren't using the keyboard over the mouse. The keyboard is certainly faster, once you know where to press because you simply reach the key like you would when typing, whereas the mouse you have to touch the mouse and then move to a corner.

Do any of you hit the hot corners on accident? I have had the screensaver set in the bottom-right for years, but I guess I found that I must not be as accurate when hitting the hot corners on top.

[wulf]

Since I have been using ASM in pre-Panther OS builds, I still have the "muscle memory" of going top-right for the Application menu. I found myself doing it a lot in Panther out of habit.

So I made top-right the hot corner for all windows. Works beautifully...

[- - e r i k - -]

I just found out today that bottom right is a bad place to have Exposé for me. When moving _away_ the pointer to hide it, I instinctively trow it in the bottom left corner. Plus I always overshoot when I empty my trash.

I found it best to move Show Desktop up to the upper left instead, I almost never touch the Apple menu, and if I were going to restart or log out anyway, moving some windows wouldn't be that disrupting.

So my setup is:
Upper left: Show desktop
Bottom left: Show all windows
F10: Show this apps windows only.

Exposé:

[danengel]

Exposé is revolutionary.

After only 5 minutes of playing with 7B85, I forgot Command-Tab in favor of Exposé. It's one of the things you wonder how you could live without before.

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

Originally posted by Eug:
I find the top left is bad because of the Apple and application menu, and the top right is bad because of fast user switching.

For me, the best would be lower left for "All Windows" and lower right for "Desktop".

ya the top left is very bad because I always activate it when going to the Apple Menu and Application menu. Even though I have fast user switching I still use the top right to show the desktop as how many times are you really logging in and out anyway?

[ckohler]

Originally posted by michaelb:
These work well for me:

Bottom right corner - All Windows (main one I use)
Bottom left corner - Desktop

I use the same configuration.

[parsec_kadets]

This is how I like it

Top right: All Windows
Bottom right: Desktop
Bottom left: activate screen saver
Top left: disable screen saver
F11: All Windows
ctrl + F11: Active app
F12: Desktop

I use ctrl+F11 because F11 and F12 are the only F keys on my PB that aren't used by other system functions (such as volume, birhgtness, etc.). Disabling the screen saver is the best one for the top left since you see no affect at all if you over shoot when you go for the Apple menu.

[Eug]

I find it quite interesting that people aren't using the keyboard over the mouse. The keyboard is certainly faster, once you know where to press because you simply reach the key like you would when typing, whereas the mouse you have to touch the mouse and then move to a corner.

Do any of you hit the hot corners on accident? I have had the screensaver set in the bottom-right for years, but I guess I found that I must not be as accurate when hitting the hot corners on top.

The mouse for expose is MUCH faster for me.

ya the top left is very bad because I always activate it when going to the Apple Menu and Application menu. Even though I have fast user switching I still use the top right to show the desktop as how many times are you really logging in and out anyway?

Fast user switching gets used all the time when my GF is around.

[schalliol]

Originally posted by Eug:
The mouse for expose is MUCH faster for me.

Interesting, it must be because of your habits, because hitting a key requires a tap in one location, whereas with a mouse, you must reach the mouse and send it to the correct location. Corners are pretty easy because you don't need to know the relative position, but most will look.

[torifile]

I found that the arrow keys work to select windows when you're "in" expose. Cool feature. It makes the keyboard option more function for me. But my setup: top left - all windows, bottom left - application windows, bottom right - show desktop.

[mrmister]

You presume that people don't have their hand on the mouse already. For those that do, using it for Expose is almost instant.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by schalliol:
Interesting, it must be because of your habits, because hitting a key requires a tap in one location, whereas with a mouse, you must reach the mouse and send it to the correct location. Corners are pretty easy because you don't need to know the relative position, but most will look.

Hand already on mouse, and yes, no need to look.

I'm a touch typist, but I have to look to hit function keys.

[neverwind]

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Originally posted by Eug:
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Interesting, it must be because of your habits, because hitting a key requires a tap in one location, whereas with a mouse, you must reach the mouse and send it to the correct location. Corners are pretty easy because you don't need to know the relative position, but most will look.

aaah, but you all presumed he meant hot corners... Wrong - I think he meant right click - expose all windows...

To me - that is far more effecient than hot corners or reaching up to the the F keys...

[RooneyX]

Top left: Screensaver
Top Right: Show all windows
Bottom Left: Show Desktop
Bottom Right: Show application windows

[TheDisaster]

Push down scroll wheel - Desktop
Bottom left - Application Windows
Top Right - All Windows

Using the top right corner doesn't really get bumped on accident too much because I don't use fast user switching because I'm the only person on this machine (since everybody pissed me off that is). I only occasionally use it to either A) Play with it/show it off/marvel at animation or B) Lock others out without quitting all my apps (Don't use password screen saver because of reason A). But using that scroll wheel click for desktop rules, I love sitting here watching the windows zoom away, back, away, back, away, sunrise, sunset, sunrise, sunset, sunrise, sunset, sunri...*crash* ... nevermind...

[schalliol]

Originally posted by neverwind:
aaah, but you all presumed he meant hot corners... Wrong - I think he meant right click - expose all windows...

To me - that is far more effecient than hot corners or reaching up to the the F keys...

Well the subject is "hot corners". At any rate my 4 button Expert Mouse (optical) makes one click for all windows and a chord click for the other the two. That's just gotta be faster than the drag to a corner.

[midwinter]

has anyone been able to configure a logitech mx700 to work with expose? It gives me 31 buttons, and none of them seem to trigger any function.

[Eug Wanker]

aaah, but you all presumed he meant hot corners... Wrong - I think he meant right click - expose all windows...

Why would you use right-click for Exposé? I use right-click for... right-click. ie. Contextual menus.

[schalliol]

Originally posted by midwinter:
has anyone been able to configure a logitech mx700 to work with expose? It gives me 31 buttons, and none of them seem to trigger any function.

You can't custom select a keystroke?

[midwinter]

Originally posted by schalliol:
You can't custom select a keystroke?

Yes, but I have a mouse with 8 buttons, and I'd just like to assign it to one of the buttons.

Am I misunderstanding something?

[:dragonflypro:]

Top Left: All
Top Right: App
Bottom Left: Desktop

And I jusr dicovered a slick little nuance...

When you Exposé in to all windows you can 'tab' through the apps full screen...then 'click' or 'enter' to select.

Very Nice!

T

[schalliol]

Originally posted by midwinter:
Yes, but I have a mouse with 8 buttons, and I'd just like to assign it to one of the buttons.

Am I misunderstanding something?

Yep, I have a Kensington product, but I can map button 4 to F12 for example. So that when I press that button, it basically will activate Exposé.

[icruise]

Originally posted by midwinter:
Yes, but I have a mouse with 8 buttons, and I'd just like to assign it to one of the buttons.

Am I misunderstanding something?

Just assign one of you buttons to F9 or whatever. I use USB overdrive to do this on my Mx500.

[ryaxnb]

Bottom left all windows bottom right app windows edit: and top right desktop.