[betoranaldi]

looking to get the panther upgrade cd's but want to do a clean install... do i have to havve a version of 10.2 installed for 10.3 to install or will it just ask for a cd?


... how did the 10.2 upgrade cd's work?

Thanks in advaced

[ZildjianKX]

Bump, I'd like to know the same.

Do they just ship you a retail box version? Or do they give you a new restore DVD?

Or do they just give you normal Panther CDs like the ADC get?

[zachs]

Originally posted by betoranaldi:
looking to get the panther upgrade cd's but want to do a clean install... do i have to havve a version of 10.2 installed for 10.3 to install or will it just ask for a cd?


... how did the 10.2 upgrade cd's work?

Thanks in advaced

The Panther CDs work in the same way the Jaguar CDs worked. You'll have the option to upgrade, or you can either do an Archive & Install (similar to a clean install), or a Format and Install.

[ZildjianKX]

So the upgade CDs they send you for $20 are the same as retail CDs? Do they come in a retail box do you know?

[betoranaldi]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX:
Bump, I'd like to know the same.

Do they just ship you a retail box version? Or do they give you a new restore DVD?

Or do they just give you normal Panther CDs like the ADC get?

so i will be able to do a format and install... i am going to be partitioning my drive so nothing will be on it to begin with is this going to be a problem (will have to install 10.2.7) or will it just ask me to iinstert a 10.2 cd to confirm that i have it?

Thanks again for all of your help
Brian

[Person Man]

Originally posted by betoranaldi:
so i will be able to do a format and install... i am going to be partitioning my drive so nothing will be on it to begin with is this going to be a problem (will have to install 10.2.7) or will it just ask me to iinstert a 10.2 cd to confirm that i have it?

Thanks again for all of your help
Brian

The installer will give you an option to format and install if you want, but you have to have installed 10.2.x first. Big pain in the butt if you have to erase and reinstall. First you have to reinstall 10.2.x and then you can erase that and install 10.3 on the disk.

[ckohler]

The question was and still is: Will the $20 upgrade CDs let users do a format and install or can they only upgrade?

We all know what the current Panther CDs floating around can do but those are full install CDs and may not be representative of what the $20 upgrade CDs can do if they turn out to be different. It's happened before.

[passmaster16]

Originally posted by ckohler:
The question was and still is: Will the $20 upgrade CDs let users do a format and install or can they only upgrade?

We all know what the current Panther CDs floating around can do but those are full install CDs and may not be representative of what the $20 upgrade CDs can do if they turn out to be different. It's happened before.

You're not going to be able to to a clean install with the upgrade discs unless you modify them similar to how the Jaguar upgrade disc was modified to work as a full version. Below are the instructions for Jaguar. Will they work for Panther? I guess we'll find out when somebody tries. Apple may have changed their protection since last year to prevent this sort of tampering.

Posted by curtlivingston on: 11-05-2002 09:03 PM

i used this to turn my upgrade disks into install disks

1.Insert your MacOS X 10.2 Update CD
2.Fire up "Disk Copy" from /Applications/
Utilities
3.Select from the Menubar "Image | New
Image from Device..."
4.Select your CD-ROM drive's contents
from the resulting dialog
5.Image it as a "DVD/CD Master" type
(this will take a little while)

Modifying the CD contents
1.Control-click (or right-click) on the
resulting disk image
2.See that it's mounted
3.Navigate with the Finder to System/
Installation/Packages on mounted image
4.Select the "Essentials.pkg" file...
5....by right-clicking on it and select "Show
Package Contents"
6.In the pop-up Finder window, navigate
to Contents/Resources/
7.Drag "CheckForOSX" to the Trash and
close all these Finder windows

Burning your new Install CD
1.Go back to Disk Copy and select from
the Menubar "Image | New Image from
Device..."
2.Select the mounted volume you opened
up above and make another "DVD/CD
Master" image
3.Now select from the Menubar "Image |
Burn Image..."
4.Select your newly modified .dmg file
5.Burn it to CD and enjoy

[Person Man]

Originally posted by passmaster16:
You're not going to be able to to a clean install with the upgrade discs unless you modify them similar to how the Jaguar upgrade disc was modified to work as a full version. Below are the instructions for Jaguar. Will they work for Panther? I guess we'll find out when somebody tries. Apple may have changed their protection since last year to prevent this sort of tampering.

Not entirely true. You can do a clean install of the operating system with the upgrade CD. You just can't do it to a freshly formatted drive. You have to install 10.2 so that the upgrade CD sees you have the earlier operating system. You can then format the disk entirely from within the 10.3 installer and start with a fresh system (=clean install).

[elvis2000]

Posted by curtlivingston on: 11-05-2002 09:03 PM

SNIP

4.Select your newly modified .dmg file
5.Burn it to CD and enjoy [/B]

What if your image is larger than the typical CDR? For example, 706MB?