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Oct 10, 2003, 11:31 AM
 
So I just got a rev b 12" powerbook this week, and found that, yep, classic is still there. I haven't used OS 9 for at least a couple years, and have no need for it. So, in clearing out space on my HD, I'm going to throw away the classic apps folder and the classic system. My only question is: is there anything else hidden that I can clear out to make up some more space on my HD?
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 11:36 AM
 
I think there is also a OS9 documents folder on your HD. The OSX documents folder is in your user folder. I think those three things, apps folder, system folder and documents folder will rid you of OS9. I did a clean install on my 15PB with the included installer and it didn't install classic. So, if you don't already have a ton of stuff on there, you could do that.

Either way you are good to go!

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Oct 10, 2003, 11:38 AM
 
don't forget /System/Library/Core Services/Classic Startup.

20.6 MB application.

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Oct 10, 2003, 12:06 PM
 
I would personally suggest leaving the Classic Startup application in place... the main reason being that if you delete it and you suddenly find yourself needing Classic (for whatever reason), you'd have to reinstall OS X to be able to use it again. If you just remove the system folder, it's easy to get Classic support back, just drag the system folder back over. It's only 20.6 MB anyway.

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Oct 10, 2003, 12:34 PM
 
Other then not having the extra space on the HD, It is similar to DOS in Windows XP...

You hate it, it's old, it sucks... but when you are in a bind... it can make your day.

I just set mine to ask before launching...
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 12:34 PM
 
Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
(snip) It's only 20.6 MB anyway.
That's bigger than my first Mac's entire hard drive. Sigh.

But yes, I would keep it to. Put the OS 9 system and applications folders on a CD just in case you need to do a quick install.
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 12:37 PM
 
Originally posted by chris v:
don't forget /System/Library/Core Services/Classic Startup.

20.6 MB application.

CV
DON'T delete anything out of /System. It's bad mojo. The only thing you're allowed to get away with is dodgy 3rd party kernel extensions...

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Oct 10, 2003, 01:35 PM
 
Go to Mike Bombich's site- www.bombich.com and download Carbon Copy Cloner. Then go here to see how to make a disk image of your System Folder. Depending on your needs, you can pare it down so that it is less than 80 MB. It has saved my assets a couple of time this last year.

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Oct 10, 2003, 01:48 PM
 
sudo rm -rf "/System Folder" (yes, with quotes.)
then
sudo rm -rf "/System/Library/CoreServices/Classic Startup.app" (with quotes)
then
sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Classic
WARNING: The last 2 items could be dangerous to Mac OS X, but probably won't be. Do everything at the Terminal. Enter admin password when prompted.
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Oct 10, 2003, 01:59 PM
 
Seriously, how much space are you saving? 200MB? On a 20-60GB HD, is it really worth the trouble?

Otherwise, do what they said above. I you don't need it, blow it away!

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Oct 10, 2003, 02:24 PM
 
My big first step was removing all of my OS 9 applications and extras...

You may want to take it one step at a time
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 03:23 PM
 
I don't understand why Apple keeps including the "Applications (Mac OS 9)" folder and it's contents on the new Aluminium Powerbooks.

Most of the software in that folder, such as Drive Setup and Disk First Aid cannot run under Classic, and since the Powerbook cannot boot Mac OS 9 - it cannot run those programs all.

So why continue to bundle them?

The 200MB Mac OS 9 System Folder is enough.
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 05:09 PM
 
Big tip. Get "delocalizer" and remove all the other OSX languages and save up to 500MB.

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Oct 11, 2003, 08:42 AM
 
Ok, great stuff folks. Thanks!

And good idea for the languages. Once I remove all but English and Japanese, I wonder how much space will be available?

Hey, 200 megs is still 200 megs!
     
   
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