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oranjdisc · Oct 16, 2003, 10:23 AM

Was curious if anyone still had screenshots of the pre-pubic beta builds of OS X.

Just for sh*ts and giggles, with all the Panther improvements coming, thought it would be a fun stroll to see how far the OS has truly come. Anyone?

mitchell_pgh · Oct 16, 2003, 10:27 AM

I still have my Developer Build 2 CDs at my fathers house.

I should try to load them on my Beige G3...

Lew · Oct 16, 2003, 10:38 AM

Here's a schot of DP3 I found with Google.

DP2 File Viewer:

Classic apparently ran from a disk image in DP2:

DP2 Classic Startup:

DP2 Process Monitor:

DP2 Developer Tools could apparently build for x86:

sinthetique · Oct 16, 2003, 10:38 AM

There are a few screenshots over at this page. It's all russian, but pretty easy to navigate anyway.

DP3 was such a funny experience. You'd turn it on, look at it, have fun with the dock, then boot back into OS 9.

mitchell_pgh · Oct 16, 2003, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by sinthetique:
There are a few screenshots over at this page. It's all russian, but pretty easy to navigate anyway.

DP3 was such a funny experience. You'd turn it on, look at it, have fun with the dock, then boot back into OS 9.

I launched DP2... (took forever) ran the terminal (I knew it would be nice) looked around, knew that there weren't ANY applications for it, and booted back into 8 for the next year or so.

I then tried the PB for a little while. Nice, but lacking the Apple style... went back to OS 9 for my normal work.

I made the full time switch at 10.2

- - e r i k - - · Oct 16, 2003, 12:25 PM

Boatload of DP2 running on Intel-shots:
http://turtleworld.homeunix.com/comp...appearance.jpg

Geobunny · Oct 16, 2003, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by sinthetique:
DP3 was such a funny experience. You'd turn it on, look at it, have fun with the dock, then boot back into OS 9.

DP3 was great, day after day checking SoftTrack www.stepwise.com to see if any new applications hadd been released. I rememember being really excited seeing Aqua running for the first time on my own computer. I still think I prefer the look of the old Dick though. The tiles were nice, as was the 1px thick line underneath to say what app's running (and which is in the foreground).

Much fun to be had. I also really liked the mp3Player.app although I don't think that appeared till DP4. Anyone rememeber?

Xeo · Oct 16, 2003, 02:40 PM

Here's some I took way back when.

They're supposed to be Aqua, but I took the screenshots 'cause it had reverted back to Platinum due to a bug. Apparently you could force it to do this, but in this case, it was an accident.

Bohemia · Oct 16, 2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Here's some I took way back when.

Wow. Mail's icon hasn't changed a bit in five years!

Mrs_Vod[k]a · Oct 16, 2003, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Bohemia:
Wow. Mail's icon hasn't changed a bit in five years!

i quite like the mail icon, and the consistency it brings to the operating system

Millennium · Oct 16, 2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Geobunny:
I rememember being really excited seeing Aqua running for the first time on my own computer. I still think I prefer the look of the old Dick though.

voodoo · Oct 16, 2003, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Mrs_Vod[k]a:
i quite like the mail icon, and the consistency it brings to the operating system

It's a good icon.

forkies · Oct 16, 2003, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Here's some I took way back when.

They're supposed to be Aqua, but I took the screenshots 'cause it had reverted back to Platinum due to a bug. Apparently you could force it to do this, but in this case, it was an accident.

Sorry, dude, but I took those screenshots. YOU were standing next to me, but I took them. narf

mikemako · Oct 16, 2003, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:

HA-HA-HA.. i noticed it, too.. a respectable citizen would diregard and not call attention to such a slip so as to not embarrass the unfortuanate fellow.

Geobunny · 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:

Oh dear. Umm, sorry about that earlier. Was kinda drunk, sobered up now thanks to some food (and stopping the drinking!)

Anyway, back OT...

ryaxnb · Oct 16, 2003, 07:11 PM

Try here They have screenshots and info from DP2 (no Aqua!) to Mac OS X v10.2.
Also for a screenshot of he first "Aquatic" X, go here.
For a look at Raphsody (one of the OS X descendants) try here. As for NeXT, look here. For a look at old Aqua widgets vs. new Aqua widgets, try here.
Yes I know of a lot.
ArsTechnica (first link) has DP2, DP3, DP4, Beta, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2.

RooneyX · Oct 16, 2003, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by ryaxnb:
Try here They have screenshots and info from DP2 (no Aqua!) to Mac OS X v10.2.
Also for a screenshot of he first "Aquatic" X, go here.
For a look at Raphsody (one of the OS X descendants) try here. As for NeXT, look here. For a look at old Aqua widgets vs. new Aqua widgets, try here.
Yes I know of a lot.
ArsTechnica (first link) has DP2, DP3, DP4, Beta, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2.

I really like the NeXT look. It's professional and makes me feel like I'm using a workstation and not just a mass consumer orientated OS. But still, we've come along way and Panther is amazing.

Apfhex · Oct 17, 2003, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by ryaxnb:
Also for a screenshot of he first "Aquatic" X, go here.

Oh! That brings back some memories. That's the screenshot Apple had up back when Aqua was introduced, isn't it?

I think it'd be really great to have an article made comparing visual differences starting back at DP3 and going up to Panther (and heck, even go all the way and start back with System 6 or whichever it was that the first Macs ran).

ryaxnb · Oct 17, 2003, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by Bohemia:
Wow. Mail's icon hasn't changed a bit in five years!

Oh yes it has. Mail used to have a 1.0 in the icon. I know everything. </Brag> Sorry about the bragging.

Bohemia · Oct 17, 2003, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by ryaxnb:
Oh yes it has. Mail used to have a 1.0 in the icon. I know everything. </Brag> Sorry about the bragging.

All right. You got me. How long does an icon live before it's redesigned? The simpletext icon was the same for a looong time...

:XI: · Oct 17, 2003, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by ryaxnb:
Oh yes it has. Mail used to have a 1.0 in the icon. I know everything. </Brag> Sorry about the bragging.

Also it used to be rotated to the right, now it's rotated to the left.

Also, i'm glad apple separated applications and minimised apps/windows on the dock. that would've been a mess to use everyday.

Judge_Fire · Oct 17, 2003, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by Mrs_Vod[k]a:
i quite like the mail icon, and the consistency it brings to the operating system

Though it would be fun for filatelists, if Apple would stream famous stamps into the icon

J

timmerk · Oct 18, 2003, 05:20 AM

I started using OS X full time with DP4. It ran great on my B&W G3 350 Mhz.

I remember showing all my friends that I was running a Unix box - but no, not untill 10.0 did they finally believe me. :-)

yes, i remember the stepwise days too!

Eriamjh · Oct 18, 2003, 08:40 AM

I'm glad apple dropped the platinum look for OSX. It just doesn't seem like a new OS if it looks like OS9. I think Steve wanted it to look and feel different from OS9 and it does.

I wonder just how "snappy" OSX would be if Aqua was just toned down a bit, though. I guess it won't matter when Panther comes out.