[RooneyX]

This poll is for people who already have Panther or have already got it on order.

[Kenneth]

FP...

ADC Student here.. no seeding program.. may receive Panther in the Nov. mailing... who knows.. I ordered a copy.. but [check my temporary sig]

[nobitacu]

I have mine on order and it has been shipped. I will have it in my hand by 4:30 pm this Friday.

Ming

[max power]

Dear Apple Customer,

The following products shipped on 10/22/2003.
Transit time will depend upon whether you have chosen standard or premium freight
options. If your order is shipping standard freight, it should arrive within 2 - 5 business days of shipment.

Product # Product Description Qty Ext Price
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M9227LL/A MAC OS X PANTHER 10.3 RETAIL-USA 1 129.00
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SHIPPINGA OVERNIGHT SHIPPING CHARGE 1 12.00
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I just tracked my order on fedex and I will have mine on Thursday Am delivery

[Geobunny]

Poll needs another option for "I'm a developer, got it installed, but not overly happy with it"

I'm not trolling or saying it's crap and you shouldn't buy it, all I'm saying is that although computers should be functional, we're all here cos we find our computers fun and enjoy using them. A new OS gives us something to play with, have fun pushing buttons, twiddling nobs, finding new applications, trying to break it (...and fix it again!) and so on. The upgrade to 10.3 has nowhere near as much of that fun element as the 10.2 upgrade did, which in turn had less than the 10.1 upgrade (that one was HUGE though! )

It's more like going from OS 8.5 to OS 9, which is probably quite a good thing as far as the OS is concerned. It means it's maturing, and the less that gets added per upgrade, the less stuff it needs to have added.

It's nice, but it's not worth getting excited about.

[Boochie]

Agreed. Nothing earth-shattering, just a variety of improvements here and there. Expose is cool to look at and demo to people who visit your office, but I haven't figured out how I'll incorporate it into my workflow.

Having said that, when I take stock of all the small improvements they do add up to a meanginful cumulative difference wrt Jaguar:

- Better SMB compatibility and more graceful handling of unexpected disconnects
- Mail thread view
- New finder sidebars (though I hate the metal)
- Built-in VPN client
- Finder contextual menu option to archive files/folders (creates a zip file for you)
- Expose (see above)
- Faster boot time

All nice, but no single thing that makes me go *WOW*!

Originally posted by Geobunny:
Poll needs another option for "I'm a developer, got it installed, but not overly happy with it"

I'm not trolling or saying it's crap and you shouldn't buy it, all I'm saying is that although computers should be functional, we're all here cos we find our computers fun and enjoy using them. A new OS gives us something to play with, have fun pushing buttons, twiddling nobs, finding new applications, trying to break it (...and fix it again!) and so on. The upgrade to 10.3 has nowhere near as much of that fun element as the 10.2 upgrade did, which in turn had less than the 10.1 upgrade (that one was HUGE though! )

It's more like going from OS 8.5 to OS 9, which is probably quite a good thing as far as the OS is concerned. It means it's maturing, and the less that gets added per upgrade, the less stuff it needs to have added.

It's nice, but it's not worth getting excited about.

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by Boochie:
Agreed. Nothing earth-shattering, just a variety of improvements here and there. Expose is cool to look at and demo to people who visit your office, but I haven't figured out how I'll incorporate it into my workflow.

That's what I thought but moving windows aside to see your desktop in that manner is really impressive. I don't have to minimize or hide applications with keyboard commands now, just one wipe of the mouse.

[Judge_Fire]

There aren't that many improvements as in the 10.1 to 10.2 upgrade, but the few are great. Fast user switching, better printing, better save/open dialogs, more comprehendable finder...

And the difference in perceived UI speed is, for me, finally up to par with OS 9. Thank you, Apple.

I'll now officially stop whining and making comparisons to OS 9, with a last, silent wish for 'tabbed folders, goddammit'. Ok, I'm done.


Oh, 'select' dev I am and mostly happy - there are a few annoying bugs.

J