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chabig · Oct 26, 2003, 10:51 PM

I still have an old Powermac 7600 that I use as a file server at home. I also have a LaserWriter IIg that doesn't support TCP/IP printing, so I have Appletalk turned on, and I have File Sharing turned on for the Powermac.

In Jaguar, the Connect to Server box would see the 7600.

But in Panther, it doesn't see the 7600 although I can connect fine by manually typing the URL.

Can anyone confirm that Panther doesn't browse for Appletalk servers anymore?

Chris

snerdini · Oct 26, 2003, 11:24 PM

I've got some network goofiness myself. For some reason, my iBook doesn't show up on the network anymore, and I've never been able to see my Linux box via SMB. I can mount shares from both machines to my G4 though.

passmaster16 · Oct 26, 2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by snerdini:
I've got some network goofiness myself. For some reason, my iBook doesn't show up on the network anymore, and I've never been able to see my Linux box via SMB. I can mount shares from both machines to my G4 though.

I'm having some issues as well. My windows shares will show up in the finder and disappear. I can't even connect to them manually right now yet no issues connecting from my 10.2 machine. Looks like we better start filing bug reports http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/

passmaster16 · Oct 26, 2003, 11:43 PM

Sorry. Double post.

nchaimov · Oct 27, 2003, 12:21 AM

For some reason, Panther comes with AppleTalk browsing disabled by default. To turn it back on, open /Applications/Utilities/Directory Access and check the box next to AppleTalk. Once you do that, you should be able to browse AppleTalk servers.

Judge_Fire · Oct 27, 2003, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by nchaimov:
For some reason, Panther comes with AppleTalk browsing disabled by default. To turn it back on, open /Applications/Utilities/Directory Access and check the box next to AppleTalk. Once you do that, you should be able to browse AppleTalk servers.

Thanks, this saved my day

J

chabig · Oct 27, 2003, 09:36 AM

You nailed it. Thanks a lot. I wonder why Appletalk is disabled by default?

Chris

wulf · Oct 27, 2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by chabig:
You nailed it. Thanks a lot. I wonder why Appletalk is disabled by default?

My understanding is that AppleTalk is usually loathed by Windows network admins, because it generates a lot of 'chatter' on the network, and is seen as inefficient and antiquated.

Perhaps Apple is deprecating its use as part of its strategy to make OS X more network-friendly (i.e., Windows networks in particular).

piracy · Oct 27, 2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by chabig:
You nailed it. Thanks a lot. I wonder why Appletalk is disabled by default?

Chris

Because AppleTalk is super-high-overhead, is being deprecated by just about every network on earth, and Apple even rid itself of it YEARS ago on its corporate networks?

That *could* be it...

chabig · Oct 27, 2003, 10:20 AM

I guess that makes sense then. When I replace my Powermac 7600 (soon I hope) then I'll be done with Appletalk serving as well.

Chris

tooki · Oct 27, 2003, 10:58 AM

The FIRST VERSION of AppleTalk was very chatty -- that was quickly remedied, and hasn't been the case for well over a decade! NetBEUI (SMB/CIFS, NetBIOS) is in fact chattier than AppleTalk, as is IPX (Novell). What is true about AppleTalk (like NetBEUI) is that it wasn't designed for large networks, causing AppleTalk performance to plummet (it doesn't affect the performance of other protocols). TCP/IP and IPX were both designed for large networks, and thus work well in such environments.

Let's put all the browsing/file sharing problems in one thread: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=184825

tooki