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View Poll Results: Is Panther "Ready for Prime Time" for newcomers to Mac?
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Yes - First thing wipe disk & install Panther fresh 30 votes (54.55%)
Yes - Install Panther but over Jaguar via Archive/Install 23 votes (41.82%)
Not yet - Learn OS X on Jaguar; upgrade to Panther soon 2 votes (3.64%)
No Panther - Just live with Jaguar for a while: best for Mac newbie 0 votes (0%)
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Is Panther "Ready for Prime Time" for Mac newcomers
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Oct 27, 2003, 04:30 AM
 
Forgive me, I'm just new to the world of Macs - and have suffered through a lot of Windows upgrades. My first Mac arrives this week (used TiBook 667MHz, 768MB, 30GB) and I'm really excited about the Panther features. I'd like to start right off with Panther (It'll come with Jaguar 10.2.6), but Windows has taught me to be cautious about first release of a system.

Shall I upgrade first to Panther before even migrating my documents and installing applications? Or get familiar with OS X in Jaguar and upgrade later?

Thanks to all you Mac vets!
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 04:44 AM
 
I just voted for Archive & Install, which I think is fine in general. However since you are getting a used machine, you might as well do a wipe & clean install.

I can't see any reason not to go straight to Panther, unless you have apps that are having compatibility problems (see the other threads for info on this).
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 04:48 AM
 
Since it's a new machine, there's absolutely no reason not to just wipe the disk and install Panther fresh, and I also can't think of any reason why you'd want to start learning Mac OS with Jaguar. Might as well start with the newest and best, right? Any bugs it has so far seem relatively minor.
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 10:46 AM
 
Unless you're getting (non-system) software with the TiBook, what's to gain from keeping unknown junk on there that someone else may have left around (including a "now-toast" OS edition)?

Might as well start clean. Anyway, it doesn't seem that Panther 10.300 has any more difficulties than Jaguar 10.2.6/10.2.8.

You're going to love that TiBook - and Panther!
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 10:59 AM
 
I hate this 'wipe disk then install'. By definition, this pretty much discounts upgrading for non-experts.

How the hell am I supposed to explain to my mother about backing up? Even assuming she has anything big enough to backup to on her iMac DV, which she doesn't.

If an OS isn't ready to be installed over an existing version, it's not 100% ready.

End of story.
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 11:05 AM
 
Originally posted by booboo:
I hate this 'wipe disk then install'. By definition, this pretty much discounts upgrading for non-experts.

How the hell am I supposed to explain to my mother about backing up? Even assuming she has anything big enough to backup to on her iMac DV, which she doesn't.

If an OS isn't ready to be installed over an existing version, it's not 100% ready.

End of story.
Damn right.

Anyway back when Jaguar came out I did a normal upgrade. A few months later I did an archive and install and there was no difference whatsoever.
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 11:42 AM
 
Originally posted by booboo:
I hate this 'wipe disk then install'. By definition, this pretty much discounts upgrading for non-experts.

How the hell am I supposed to explain to my mother about backing up? Even assuming she has anything big enough to backup to on her iMac DV, which she doesn't.

If an OS isn't ready to be installed over an existing version, it's not 100% ready.

End of story.
This is a new machine for the guy. There's no point in doing an upgrade.
     
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Oct 27, 2003, 11:48 AM
 
I think it's ready.

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Oct 28, 2003, 05:53 PM
 
Originally posted by Icruise:
This is a new machine for the guy. There's no point in doing an upgrade.
Fair enough
     
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Oct 28, 2003, 06:13 PM
 
I've done Archive & Install on 3 machines so far, and everything is great! *knocks on wood*
     
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Oct 28, 2003, 08:35 PM
 
I've done upgrade installs on three machines (dual G5, TiBook 1GHz, iMac DV 400MHz) and a format/install on an iBook G3 600.

So far, all working just fine.

Just a note, though.... while Panther runs fairly well on the iMac DV 400MHz G3 with only 256MB RAM, it took forever to install!
     
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Oct 28, 2003, 08:43 PM
 
I'd go simple upgrade. Has worked for me on 2 machines. No problems so far.
     
   
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