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Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 11:51 AM

That is really the only thing I don't like about my mac. I think that it is a retarded design decision to not let the user turn the display off.

Is there a software that enables the user to put the display to sleep? If not, I might write one

barbarian · Nov 1, 2003, 01:00 PM

1. how about the sleep command?

2. If you only want the display to sleep and are running processes just set a very low "set to display to sleep" time in the energy saver.

3. Open the keychain access app. Under the view menu there should be an option to put an indicator in the menu bar. One of the options there is "lock screen". depending on how you have your screensaver/energy saver settings, it can quickly shut off the display.

RooneyX · Nov 1, 2003, 01:39 PM

I've got a Alu17 to Cinema Display set up and if I put them both to sleep they wake up on their own after about 30 mins. Can't figure it out.

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
I've got a Alu17 to Cinema Display set up and if I put them both to sleep they wake up on their own after about 30 mins. Can't figure it out.

I had that exact same problem with my cinema display. I had to zap the nvram/pram , and after that it did not wake up on its own anymore

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by barbarian:
1. how about the sleep command?

2. If you only want the display to sleep and are running processes just set a very low "set to display to sleep" time in the energy saver.

3. Open the keychain access app. Under the view menu there should be an option to put an indicator in the menu bar. One of the options there is "lock screen". depending on how you have your screensaver/energy saver settings, it can quickly shut off the display.

Regarding #3 -- I tried that , and it seemed to work, but it looked like it was just blacking out the display rather than powering it down. My main concern is for the life of the backlight.

RooneyX · Nov 1, 2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Hop Pocket:
I had that exact same problem with my cinema display. I had to zap the nvram/pram , and after that it did not wake up on its own anymore

I don't wanna zap nuttin.

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
I don't wanna zap nuttin.

Ok, well, I hope you can deal with your CDs waking up every 30 minutes then

RooneyX · Nov 1, 2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Hop Pocket:
Ok, well, I hope you can deal with your CDs waking up every 30 minutes then

Argh! My work around, leave the damn machine on all night in case iChatters want to leave messages. Damn app doesn't support offline messages.

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
Argh! My work around, leave the damn machine on all night in case iChatters want to leave messages. Damn app doesn't support offline messages.

Heh, that's definitely the one thing I like about Yahoo over iChat... The offline messages capability is key. However, it does require non-trivial server resources to do this, so what the hey. Oh wait, how much did I pay for this rig?

RooneyX · Nov 1, 2003, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Hop Pocket:
Heh, that's definitely the one thing I like about Yahoo over iChat... The offline messages capability is key. However, it does require non-trivial server resources to do this, so what the hey. Oh wait, how much did I pay for this rig?

Why Apple can't use our Dot Mac iDisk space for offline messages is the question. Why? It's so easy to implement.

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
Why Apple can't use our Dot Mac space for offline messages is the question. Why? It's so easy to implement.

I would GUESS because the profit margins re: iTools are so narrow that it would not make sense to dedicate more server cpu power toward this feature.

Also, I imagine that they allocate their disk space much in the same way a S&L entity will distribute loans. Is it not true that there is some ratio of money loaned vs. money that is in the vault that is acceptable for organizations that make loans? If so, I'd imagine that Apple would do the same with their .mac space.

Guessing that the average .mac user uses 30-40% of their iDisk space, Apple could make big profits adjusting the amount of hardware dedicated to keeping the service up for everyone according to 'normal' use patterns.

RooneyX · Nov 1, 2003, 11:05 PM

They're going to have to do it sooner or later simply because it's an essential feature of a decent chat app, as are some of the other features of Yahoo Messenger such as groups and member lists. Using iChat fan sites isn't really good enough. If a family member or friend is looking for me but doesn't know my addy, it would help if there was some sort of searchable directory on Apple's site for them to find me.

Hop Pocket · Nov 1, 2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
They're going to have to do it sooner or later simply because it's an essential feature of a decent chat app

I agree, and am looking forward to that day that it pops up in VT.

alex_kac · Nov 1, 2003, 11:54 PM

iChat can't do it because AIM can't do it.

Out of all the IM's out there - only Yahoo does it. And frankly...I hate it. If I'm not on - email me. If I'm on, chat me.