[benign]

I have installed two small shareware apps
both with menu bar icons which don't
work with 10.3.1.

A) Sleepless : Has no pull down menu, and
should remove itself from the dock but does not.

B) 'LaunchitemsX' menubar : Also does not
have it's pull-down menu.

C) PTHClock also will not remove itself from
the dock.



Lastly does anyone know when Iconfactory
will release candybar for 10.3.1 ?

[diamondsw]

If these programs are SystemUIServer plugins then they will likely have problems. SystemUI plugins are the ones you can easily drag back and forth, like what Apple provides. If this is the case, let the developer know they shouldn't be using a private API that they were explicitly told over a year ago not to use.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by diamondsw:
If these programs are SystemUIServer plugins then they will likely have problems. SystemUI plugins are the ones you can easily drag back and forth, like what Apple provides. If this is the case, let the developer know they shouldn't be using a private API that they were explicitly told over a year ago not to use.

Seems a little harsh... I much prefer the menu extra's, as I do like to move them around... I'd just go about updating them to continue to work...

Oh yeah, and this doesn't apply to sleepless. I used to use it, it's an application menu bar icon (not one you can drag around)...

And with PTH clock, you really don't have much of a choice. If it wern't an integrated menu extra, it would be stuck way at the end of the menu bar... Most people prefer to have the clock be the first item, if you were to change PTH clock to abide by the rule, nobody would use it and everybody would complain about it...

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by diamondsw:
If these programs are SystemUIServer plugins then they will likely have problems. SystemUI plugins are the ones you can easily drag back and forth, like what Apple provides. If this is the case, let the developer know they shouldn't be using a private API that they were explicitly told over a year ago not to use.

I still don't understand why Apple doesn't just make the API public. I mean, it's not as if developers can't still litter the menu bar with crap using a background daemon and NSStatusItem. The only differences are that you can't move the NSStatusItem around, and that it's much less easy to get rid of an NSStatusItem (you have to find out what program is putting it there and kill it, as opposed to menu extras where you can simply command-drag them off the menu bar).

NSStatusItem is more likely to bring us back to the old days of menu bars filled with crap and users that don't know how to get rid of them than the menu extras would, if they were public.