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Backup Thoughts
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I had thread awhile back on partitioning strategies and read lot of old threads in archives. I was going to try idea of putting apps in another partition or HD as many suggested, but I quickly discovered that lot bad things happen when you separate apps from their preferences.
I'm thinking instead of partitioning, maybe just going with the bootable backup strategy, and backing that up daily.
1) What do people think of this idea?
2) What is advantage of having entire HD with bootable back up, (i.e. using CCC, or Synch Pro etc) as opposed to not bothering with those backup utilities -- and just putting OS manually on another HD and then copying all key folders there as well. Any ideas appreciated. thanks!
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Backing up data to a different partition of the same hard disk is not a sufficient backup strategy.
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Thanks, I know that. But if anyone can answer the other questions I'd appreciate it.
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It might get a bit tedious to CCC a large drive every day, but it would certainly do the job.
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That's what I learning. I don't see advantage of the whole clone thing: -- retrospect, CCC, synchro pro, deja vu etc, when you can just put the OS yourself on backup hardrive and copy you apps and users folders over there as well, no??
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Originally posted by kevs:
That's what I learning. I don't see advantage of the whole clone thing: -- retrospect, CCC, synchro pro, deja vu etc, when you can just put the OS yourself on backup hardrive and copy you apps and users folders over there as well, no??
Backup software like retrospect will allow you to schedule backups for when your not working. It will also allow you to do a full back up once a month and then backup only new or changed files in between.
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I think most people would recommend a full backup to a completely different drive the first time, followed by incremental (changed or added files) backups afterwards.
There are many excellent backup programs out there. Rerospect is the most famous but has been described as difficult to learn. However, once you learn it, it is very flexible to use.
Other backup programs you might want to look at include at this:
backup programs on macupdate
and see if any there appeal to you.
Two of them are recommended in a book on OS X:
Data Backup X
Deja Vu
Make sure they are compatible with Panther.
(Last edited by mcsjgs; Nov 18, 2003 at 10:28 PM.
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Originally posted by mcsjgs:
Two of them are recommended in a book on OS X:
Data Backup X
Deja Vu
"Which book?", asked the author of one of these. 
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What I do for my backups is pretty simple.
Keep in mind that I am a home user, and these techniques should be good for most home users. Business environments need to do something more robust.
I have two computers, a QuickSilver G4, and a PowerBook G4. The QuickSilver has two physical hard drives in it. Once a week I use Carbon Copy Cloner to duplicate my main hard drive partition to a partition on the second hard drive. Once a month I also burn that copy to about 4 DVD-RW discs (I can erase and write over). Once a month I also completely duplicate my hard drive over to the PowerBook as well.
My iTunes Library is also backed up on a monthly basis to a separate set of DVD-RW discs in addition to the main backups. (I'm VERY protective of my music collection... having to re-rip everything would be a HUGE pain  )
If anything goes wrong with my main partition, I lose at most a week's worth of material (which for me isn't a lot of stuff since I don't generate a lot of data in a given week). If anything happens to both the main partition and the backup drive then I have a month's worth of data lost (also not a big deal for me under most circumstances). The big time saver is in not having to reinstall anything (i.e. I can just restore off the backup, reboot, and go).
Anything REALLY important is saved to both the desktop machine, and the laptop machine, and gets saved to a floppy disk (I have an external USB drive) and/ore burned to CD-RW daily.
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"Which book?", asked the author of one of these.
Mac OS X Power Tools by Dan Frakes published by Sybex
Book has not been updated for Panther yet, so you have to check all the recommendations against 3rd party apps Panther updates.
Your program gets a nice write up at pp 516-517
(Last edited by mcsjgs; Nov 19, 2003 at 12:21 PM.
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